Facts on the Cost of Illegal Alien Invaders
1. The number of illegal immigrants estimated to be here are from 12-24+ mil!
2. 5+ million cheat the government out of over $35 Billion a year in income taxes.
3. At the same time they receive $30 Billion a year in government benefits!
4. 96% of increased enrollment in public schools is due to immigration. Parents of those students contribute little or nothing in taxes to support education!
5. 2002 - American Hospital Assoc. paid $21 Billion in uncompensated healthcare..this does not include Government and private clinics costs. US Census Bureau 2003 report; 30.6% Hispanics vs. 9% other received means tested government benefits (welfare, healthcare, food stamps).
7. These 30.6% contributed NOTHING to the government while receiving benefits.
8. Taxpayers pay $12 Billion annually for illegal’s education. Add children born here to illegal parents = $28.6 Billion.
9. Providing dual language programs represents additional expense Of $290-$879 PER pupil PLUS free meals/books for illegal children in our classrooms.
10. 270,000 = number of illegal aliens spending time in our jails in 2003. 1 in 5 in our prison population are illegal aliens convicted of a felony AFTER entering our county illegally.
11. Illegal aliens displace approximately 730,000 American workers every year!
12. $20 BILLION in remittances sent back to Mexico last year! That’s a lot of $ taken out of our Economy to be sent home to their own!
FOR MORE FACTS & INFORMATON: Coalition Against Illegal Immigration, alipac and fairus
My thoughts and feelings on Illegal immigration run very very deep. My Grand father was shot and killed by an illegal immigrant over an argument about a damn PARKING SPACE. Even though there were witnesses he got away and people are too aftraid to say something out of fear of retaliation. See where in live in Washington state, these illegals run in groups and harass everyday citizens and nothing is done about it. Im so pissed at my country for letting them run rampant and do what they please as if they own this country. Im no racist at all but im so fed up with this. If our government dont do something about this problem, im sure regular citizens are going to take up arms and start taking these damn, aggressive, spanish-speaking, loud music playing, illegals and run them the hell outta here. WHERE the hell is my justice. Ive lived here my whole life, paid taxes, and work an honest 8 hour day. Tell me, where is my justice. My grandfather is dead cold in the ground and this illegal is running free to cause more problems. I swear they are a cancer to our country.
mexicans are not a cancer in this counry they do the work you don’t want to do and they don’t take you jobs they come to work in this country you people are just to lazy to get you @ss up and work that is bull sh1t.america with out a mexican would be nothing who would pick there orchsrda and field we pick the food you eat and make the clothes you were you depend on us .
nancy salas
brown proud
The “brown proud” response is ignorant but classic. Let’s make sure our brown friends understand a few irrefutable realities. #1, if you’re in the country illegally, that is without our permission, you are “entitled” to nothing. Just because one works does not mean instant entitlement. End of story. Secondly, if your true intent is to come here to work, then just come here to work, make your money and then head back home where you belong. That means not coming here to dump liters of offspring into our taxpayer financed public schools and further diluting the gene pool. My daughters were born and raised here yet speak better Spanish than most Mexicans. Also keep in mind that if every Mexican was gone tomorrow, there are 10 times as many from other countries who would fill your spot in a heartbeat. Unskilled labor from outside the USA is “dime a dozen”. Most of these idiot wetbacks don’t have a clue when it comes to Economics 1A and supply & demand. It’s a buyers market for the USA which means we win and you lose. End of story.
If Mexicans were such wonderful workers verses the “lazy” Americans, why is it that the “lazy Americans” built a country that Mexicans could not create if their lives depended on it? Mexico is a joke which is why people flee from there to come to the “promised land” built by Americans. Additionally, if Mexicans overall were such wonderful workers, why are there more illegal Mexicans in our prisons than all other illegals combined? Opps. I guess that is just an “inconvenient fact” for wishful thinking, unskilled, uneducated Mexicans attempting to justify their law breaking ways. Funny how facts get in the way of baseless arguments. Facts talk and Bushit walks.
The end is near and our brown friends know it. Consequently, they start to make desperate and ridiculous arguments which does not pass the sniff test and is beyond the pale of logic. Call it wetback logic.
In response to Ms. Salas: I don’t believe that anyone is saying that Mexicans are a cancer to society. The point that so many of us are trying to make is that illegal immigrants ARE a cancer to the United States economy. Simply stated, WE CAN’T AFFORD TO TAKE CARE OF OUR FAMILIES AS WELL AS THOSE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. For many of us it is not about race, it is about common sense. It is my understanding that Mexico is a very wealthy county rich in it’s production of gold, silver and ore. And what about the workers that are imported to Mexico from other countries to do the jobs that “hard working” Mexican Citizens won’t do (please read up on your facts)? Are we to assume that they will do the work that “lazy Mexicans” won’t do (fair is fair, correct?)?
Ms Salas, what if the tables were turned. What if I and my family moved to Mexico and let’s say at a town meeting, informed all Mexican citizens that from this point on, I will need (from your government) a job, a home, healthcare, welfare, food stamps, daycare, certain government grants (because I’m American, of course) and schools for my children that cater to their native language. By the way…. thousands of my closest relatives, friends and neighbors will be moving to Mexico shortly and will be needing the same accommodations. Ms. Salas, I ask you: does that make any sense to you? Oh…. I forgot, when I buy my house with government grants from Mexico, I will proudly display the American Flag in the front yard. If you don’t like it, too bad.
One argument that is consistently made by supporters of illegal immigration is that Mexican’s actually add to this economy by doing work American’s won’t do. I don’t doubt that many (maybe even most) Hispanics are hard working, intelligent individuals. However, if that is the case, why not use those attributes to make your own country a great place to live? Why not take that intelligence and “can do” attitude and use them to clean up your own back yard? I would assume the answer to that question is one of two options: either you can’t or you won’t. Could you please explain, in detail what the answer is and why?
Kindest Regards,
I could easily go on for an hour about why illegals and our government are ruining this country,but why should I when only I only need one reason?
They are criminals,every last one of them,and yes,it’s as simple as that.It does not matter why they broke our law,how hard they work,what intentions they have.Still the bottom line is they did and do break our laws.If they had any respect for this country at all,they would get in line and migrate legally.
The fact is they do not respect or country,but they do believe that half of teh US is actually theirs by right.They want to section off a huge portion for themsleves and ignore all of the US stands for by making their own laws and culture and not to embrace ours.
Howsabout 30 million legal Americans all rob banks and march in the streets and demand everything we want as well.Do you think Bush would give us pardons?I mean afterall it would be the first time we broke the law,and we only did it to get our families things we wanted for them right?After that we will promise to never break the law again if you could just ignore this one time,for now anyway.
Illegal immigration is absolutley NO DIFFERENT.We are a country of laws and laws must be upheld.If not anarchy and civil war reign and when this day comes I for one will be waiting on my property locked and loaded.
In closing.A vast majority of our government are basically just modern day mobsters looking for more power and money and illegals will help them in that everquest.
When all of these illegals do gain a free meal ticket on the backs of US citizens and they become citizens themselves,I wonder how they will feel when what they are doing comes back to them in the same form someday in the future after we rename America to Mexica.
Maybe the city in which they live will go down the tubes because of overpopulation of land and schools and no one paying taxes.Perhaps they will lose their job because theres just not enough prosperity to go around and the economy is not flourishing.Maybe there will be no healthcare in the area because of all of the hospitals went bankrupt.When all of freebies the system provides are gone then what?Maybe someone will even steal from you,hurt you ar a loved one.
What about when your local laws are broken,your heritage stomped allover right in front of you,or watch your government ignore the very overwhelming plea of the people.Oh wait,maybe this will not be too much of a shock,this is hows things already are in Mexico.Hmmm,wonder why that is?
At some point in time they will realize our government is corrupt and in some way shape or form,we are all just slaves.
One other comment to toss in here.Illegals and pro-illegals idiots know in their heart they have absolutley no arguement or credible reasoning to back any of their BS.This is exacty why they always end up throwing down the race charge.If they do,you have already won the debate.They do not want to admit the facts about how bad illegals hurt our country because they know it paints a horrific picture.
The stats of cost and impact are staggering and there is no greater threat facing Americans today.Our lazy corrupt government will NOT do ANYTHING so please help to save our country before its too late.
Get out,Get Active,Vote for Reform and the Correct Officials,,and Spread the Word.
http://www.Minuteman Project.com
Grassfire.org
Why doesn’t Nancy Salas answer again? Logic getting in the way? If an American citizen goes to Mexico you would find that their laws are much more strict than those in the USA. Bush calls the Minuteman volunteers vigilantees, yet the service they are providing are the same as a Neighborhood Watch group which is lauded in all communities where they are organized. The USA has the obligation to enforce it’s laws on immigration and it’s borders. Just because someone is here illegally and is working does not give them the right to break the laws of the USA by coming here illegally. Nancy, why don’t you address the questions and issues? I would think that any hispanic citizen of the USA who went through the immigration process legally would be resentful of those who break our laws by coming here illegally. I think the USA should fine employers who hire illegals $10,000 per illegal per day. I think landlords should be fined $5,000 per illegal they rent to each month. Then if illegal aliens couldn’t find work or a place to rent they might go use their good work ethic to make Mexico a place where they would be proud of and a thriving economy. Of course first they would have to rebel against all the corruption that makes it impossible now in their country of origin.
This is a little known fact…just one of those little old things you learn from experience.
30 years ago I owned a construction company in Dallas,Texas. Almost all the work we contracted was in cites and towns in South Texas (close to Mexico), San Antonio, Austin, San Angelo. All of these towns had large populations of legal Mexicans.
Most of those cities were 4-6 hours drive from Dallas. We paid hotels, mileage and perdiem to all employees. Our contracted prices were approximately three times what local contractors would for the work.
The companies we worked for hired us at outrageous prices, because they could not get local contractors to perform the work competently, and certainly not on time. In fact, they commonly described their situation as, “We’re in manana land”.
All the legal Mexicans in those areas did not want work. The contractors in those “manana land” cities couldn’t get enough people to work, to satisfy reasonable contract requirements.
The Mexican Illegals are now illegal, but I can tell you this… When you take that away they’re into Siesta time. They will take advantage of all entitlement programs just as they did years ago when I experienced their lack of desire to work.
A friend of mine put it this way, ” The sword is on their neck, they’ll work. You take away the sword and you’re going to do well to keep it off your own neck”.
you guys are freakin racists. you may claim you are not but you are. there is no such thing as an “illegal” immigrant. this country is made up of immigrants. have you ever stopped to think about where your ancestors came from? unless you’re native american you CANNOT say your family wasn’t “illegal” at one point. and what you people talkin about when you say “illegals” dont contribute to the economy? they work and every freakin week they get money taken out of their paycheck for taxes. yet at the end they cant even get retirement money because their “illegal”. THEIR THE ONES GETTING SCREWED! they are the real victims, not you.
All that about illegal aliens making less money is a hoot. They work for cash for the most part, and pay no taxes. They don’t want wages with witholding and SS taken out if they can help it. If they make $10 and hour for day labor they’d have to make $16.00 at a wage earning job.
Sure there are big companies that have been able to hire them and drive wages down, but most illegal aliens aren’t stupid enough to work with those companies for long.
They save their money, buy some lawnmowers, tools and a pickup truck. They go in business for themselves, pay no taxes and take out no taxes from their workers.
They live in local homes in large numbers, that’s bad, but that’s still better than living in a cardboard box next to a dump heap in Mexico city. Their own people rent them space in the houses with multi-occupants and are nothing more than slum landlords. Then those slum landlords pay ad-valorm taxes on a single family dwelling. The school taxes are principally funded by federal and local ad-valorem taxes. The burden on local taxpayers is becoming un-payable by middle class Americans (too expensive).
American property owners gets the burden, because teachers and doctors have to get paid.
what the hell do u have against illegals domineaux?!! and why the hell do you assume all illegals are mexican?!
I’m against any illegal, period. All illegals aren’t Mexicans, but about 90+% are. The Mexicans are the most pervasive and outspoken troublemakers of all illegals in America.
The Mexican illegals are contemptuous. They refuse to learn our language, and despise our culture. It’s stupid, how they embrace their own country, which has abandoned them. They have no future for a decent life in Mexico. They come here and have all the opportunities imaginable and still less than 50% of them graduate high school.
When do you become an American? You never will be, if you are a defender of illegal persons who don’t even belong in this country.
you know what? ur slow. unlike you & a whole bunch of many ignorant people, we never forget our culture. people come her and forget everything. they just want to blend in. but they forget where they came from. they pretend to be “Americans” at least us mexicans, we never do that. because our culture is more important than watever you have to say
You people are simply fighting about something the government can’t figure out how to deal with. Yes, as a proud MEXICAN immigrant, I too, share the burden of being looked at with certain disdain by people who cannot believe I hold a Master’s degree. How dare I, to break that stereotype of the ignorant wetback, right? YOU all are ignorant, because what you don’t realize is that by the year 2012, this country will be inhabited by more people over the age of 55. Yes, you are right, there will be other nationalities to take those jobs in a heart beat! But, can you imagine? bringing in 10 to 15 million people AT ONE TIME? Boy,, you people are seriously retarded! you just open your mouths and think “just get rid of all of them, and let’s bring some more! from other countries! Good luck! I can tell you guys have master’s degrees in Economics!! at least the ones already here have assimilated to the culture and the way of life, and by the way, some even speak English better than some Americans that I have met. When you say they don’t pay taxes, you have been totally misinformed, and by the way, this website is so poisoned with anti-immigrant hatred, you just need to really read a little more and get educated, shame on you for remaining so much in the dark. If all illegal immigrants decided to leave today, tomorrow you WILL WITNESS the collapse of a booming economy. Whether you like to admit it or not, you too, have benefitted from it, the houses being built wouldn’t be affordable to many, but they are, thanks to illegal migrant work. The produce you eat in your salads, is cheaper because some illegal immigrant did the job, your lawns look great! thanks to the illegal immigrant jobs. As a matter of fact, if you know a little Math, you will realize that they actually get the shorter end of the stick!!! However, if you are so determined to get rid of them, you’d better start to get ready for some difficult times ahead and LEARN TO CLEAN, MOW YOUR LAWNS, PICK YOUR PRODUCE, BUILD YOUR HOUSES AND LEARN TO DO IT IN THE WORSE POSSIBLE DEHUMANIZING CONDITIONS, WITH NO BENEFITS, LET’S TRAIN THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO CURRENTLY DO NOT WORK AND GET WELLFARE. You fail to understand that THAT is a bigger problem!! There is no perfect solution, but a more compasionate and civilized solution should be to continue to be the nation that was historically “the land of the american dream” and let’s participate in a real debate like civilized people that I think are. Yes, they broke the law, but they were able to find jobs, many of them even have married american citizens and live happily everafter, some are entrepeneurs, business owners, etc. YOU JUST WANT TO SEE THE NEGATIVE IN THIS DEBATE AND TOTALLY IGNORE THE REALITY. This country is underpopulated, the United States is a huge country, and like I said before, it will be a nation of old people in a few more years. Many of you didn’t even know what an “illegal alien” was, until perhaps somebody told you and then, it became a big deal! How convenient, we found a new escapegoat! I can’t find a job! it’s all the mexican illegal’s fault! competition is the key in a booming economy. I can go on and on about this, by the way, Mexico is a very beautiful country, but the problem is, the politician’s pockets are extremely deep, people don’t want to wait a lifetime to build their american dream, these people want to come here legally, but the system that is currently in place, does not allow for easy entry into the U.S. legally, that is why!!!! and it’s not cheap to get here either! these people have paid up to 3000 dls. to get here! but the U.S. doesn’t currently have a system in place for semi-skilled or unskilled workers, duh!? do you think anyone wants to pay that much and run the risk of getting caught and losing your money? You owe it to yourselves to go beyond the surface of this issue, all of us human beings have the same desires and needs. Theirs are no different!
TERESA,REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD A ” DAY WITHOUT MEXICANS?” THE ILLEGALS WERE GOING TO BRING AMERICA TO ITS KNEES!”DIDN’T HAPPEN!!!” WE DIDN’T EVEN MISS THEM. IT WAS GREAT GOING DOWN THE ROAD WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT AN ILLEGAL RUNNING OVER YOU AND THEN FLEEING THE SCENE. YOU SOUND LIKE A PERSON WHO IS FULL OF HATE FOR AMERICA.SO WHY DON’T YOU DO YOURSELF AND THE CITIZENS OF OUR COUNTRY A FAVOR AND GO BACK TO THAT WONDERFUL THIRD WORLD COUNTRY OF YOURS.BY THE WAY , I AM SO HAPPY THAT YOU HAVE A MASTERS DEGREE.TOO BAD IT DIDN’T MAKE YOU ANY SMARTER. WE ARE A NATION OF LAWS,AND SINCE YOU DON’T SEEM TO WANT TO RESPECT ANY OF THEM TERESA WHY DON’T YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS JUST GO AWAY,YOU ARE ALL MORE TROUBLE THAN YOU ARE WORTH. WE HONESTLY DO NOT NEED YOU HERE.
All I know is that regardless of what all of you racists say, the Latino population is growing and growing and will soon be the majority in this country. Statistics show that around 2020 the latino population will be outnumbering the white population so I say you better get used to it! Latinos play a fundamental part in our society no matter what anyone says. It is said that there are many jobs out there that are “Taken from U.S citizens” but that is all crap. Dont tell me that you are so upset because the dishwasher job has been taken at a local restaurant and now you cant work there…its so heartbreaking that now you will have to say sorry to your kids because they will never be able to be a landscaper, or a maid !!!! GIVE ME A BREAK! oh, and here is another point when im out driving who do i see begging for money on the side of the street???? Well its an ANGLO citizen oh my gosh!!! who is lazy now? I dont think I ever see a Mexican begging for money, but I do see a Mexican begging for a job. So when you say that Mexicans are lazy think again Idiots!!! 96% of Illegal men are employed in the U.S and many work more than one job. Illegal immigrants also pay taxes if you do some research, you can see that the majority of these immigrants pay income taxes using individual taxpayer Identification numbers or fake socials. Immigrants are not draining the welfare system either, because many of them are not even eligible to receive the majority of these services!! so I would say that the drain is coming from your own lazy unemployed citizens who wouldnt dare take up a landscaping job.
Teresa
You said a mouthful. First you told us you had a Masters…That’s B.S.
You wrote your entire long-winded abuse in one paragraph. No one with a masters would be that ignorant.
An illegal alien is somone that entered this country illegally. It’s just that simple; illegal persons have just invaded America. The Mexicans beloved country is driving them out, by starving them and not providing any potential for a decent life.
It is ignorant to hear all the Mexican patriots shouting their love for a country that has completely abandoned them. How can anyone shout the praises of such an apathetic country.
Adriana
You told all us dumb Americans how your people are going to take over America. Sad to say, you could be right.
Our govenment representatives no longer represent our people. We elect them based on their coventants to represent us, their constituents. The tyrannical jerks go to Washington and sell us out.
Actually, we aren’t far from the same kind of govenment of King George of England. Yes, the tyrant King George received our country’s rebuke in the Declaration of Independence.
I’m wondering when the newsmedia will just put the cards on the table and say it like it is. Afterall, the newsmedia just can’t keep saying the Congress is “not in touch with the people”. Our Congress is making and upholding policies framed against our countrymen. This is tyranny.
When an illegal alien goes to the Hospital and pays nothing is that illegal aware that 3 days in the Hospital for simple checkups costs Americans in excess of $10,000? Health care costs are exorbitant and illegals don’t pay, Americans do pay or they get their credit ruined and are sued in the courts.
Forty five million Americans do not have health care insurance now. American citizens put off going to doctors and hospitals, because they know they have to pay and they don’t have the money to pay.
Illegal aliens pay nothing, and aren’t even challenged to pay for their health care. Something is definitely wrong with that.
Is it right or fair that Americans should pay and people that don’t even belong here do not pay?
The playing field is more level for dental care, because no one gets free dental care…regardless of their financial or citizenship status.
If American business wants to hire illegal aliens, the companies should be compelled by law to provide medical benefits. These companies should also be required to pay local goverments a tax to offset, lack of funds for education, and community services. If this were indeed the case, we wouldn’t have illegal aliens.
HEY ADRIANA, I GUESS IN 2020 WE’LL BE UP TO OUR ASSES IN MEXICAN DISHWASHERS AND LITTLE BROWN TURDS MOWING OUR LAWNS.IS’NT THAT GREAT?OH,BY THE WAY, DID YOU HAPPEN TO SEE THE NEWS WHERE 170 MEXICAN TEACHERS ARE BEING SHIPPED INTO TEXAS TO TRY TO TEACH ILLEGAL STUDENTS HOW TO READ AND WRITE THEIR OWN DAMN LANGUAGE? ADRIANA,IN ALL SERIOUSNESS,YOUR COUNTRYMEN AND COUNTRYWOMEN ARE JUST TOO DUMB TO TAKE OVER AMERICA.THEY MAY TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE HONEY,BUT THEN AGAIN SO DOES DOGSHIT! GET A GRIP YOU MORON!!! IF MEXICANS ARE SO GREAT AT EVERYTHING,THEN WHY IS YOUR OWN COUNTRY SUCH A FRIGGIN DISASTER?MEXICO COULD BE AS WEALTHY AS THE UNITED STATES IF IT WEREN’T FOR THE FACT THAT YOUR GOVERNMENT IS SO CORRUPT AND ITS CITIZENS ARE SO DAMN STUPID.HELL,IF YOU CAN’T EVEN TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT,HOW IN BLUE BLAZES ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE OVER OURS? FYI–THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS DO NOT WANT YOU HERE,AND WE WILL GET RID OF YOU DESPITE THE EFFORTS OF BIG BUSINESS AND EL PRESEDENTE BUSH.TRUST ME ON THIS ONE. WE DO NOT WANT THE DISEASES YOU MEXICANS ARE BRINGING INTO OUR COUNTRY.WE DO NOT WANT YOUR GANGS,CRIME,LOWRIDERS,YOUR LANGUAGE,YOUR STINKING FLAG,YOUR MADONNA ON ALL YOUR BUSINESS WINDOWS,OR YOUR DRUGS. WHATS REALLY FUNNY ,IS THAT I HAVE SOME LEGAL MEXICAN FRIENDS IN SAN ANTONIO WHO CAN’T STAND YOUR ILLEGAL ASSES EITHER.HOW DARE YOU COME INTO OUR COUNTRY UNINVITED AND START SCREAMING FOR YOUR RIGHTS WHEN IN FACT YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS AT ALL IN AMERICA.I GUESS THE ONLY RIGHT YOU DO HAVE HERE,IS THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT,WHICH I AM SURE YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD BEFORE. PLEASE RESPOND ADRIANA AND TELL ME WHY MEXICANS CAN’T MAKE THEIR OWN COUNTRY WORK,I WOULD BE SO EMBARRASSED IF I WERE YOU.ALL YOUR PEOPLE ARE IS A BUNCH OF LOW LIFE LAWBREAKERS,AND THE SORRY AMERICANS WHO HIRE YOU ARE NO BETTER. YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED SWEETHEART ,WE’LL BE GETTING RID OF YA’LL SOON. KEEP DAYDREAMING
Jerry
Funny, funny, funny, outrageous…but still funny.
You said one sensible thing, as a response to Adrianna…IF YOU CAN’T EVEN TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT,HOW IN BLUE BLAZES ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE OVER OURS?
You must have a very old computer…ALL CAPS.
OMG!! first of all Jerry I can’t stand you! you have got to be the most ignorant person ever. You just can’t accept the fact that the latino population is growing and one day will be greater than yours. oh and by the way you can tell the idiots you call friends they are retarded. they are so freakin stupid just because they are here legally doesnt make them any better than the ones that arent. they are a disgrace to the latino population.
HEY DOMINEAUX,THANKS FOR THE COMPLIMENT,I THINK. ACTUALLY I THOUGHT I MADE A COUPLE OF SENSIBLE POINTS TO ADRIANA .EVEN THOUGH SOME OF IT WAS TONGUE IN CHEEK . AS FAR AS MY COMPUTER GOES,IT IS NOT THAT OLD,I’M JUST TOO DAMN LAZY TO TAKE CAPS OFF. TAKE CARE
WELL BOO HOO SHOE,YOU MENTAL MIDGET. HOW AM I GOING TO MAKE IT THROUGH THE NIGHT WITH THE THOUGHT OF YOU NOT LIKING ME ?ALL I SEE FROM YOUR LETTER IS THE FRANTIC RANTINGS OF AN ILLEGAL SYMPATHIZER.IF YOU THINK IN FACT THAT I AM IGNORANT,THEN PLEASE TELL ME WHERE I’M WRONG.LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT,IF MY AMERICAN FRIENDS OF MEXICAN DESCENT ARE HERE LEGALLY ,THEN THEY ARE RETARDED ,RIGHT SHOE? YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK SHOE…….I REALLY, REALLY ,I MEAN REALLY THINK THAT YOU HAVE YOUR HEAD CRAMMED UP YOUR BUTT SO FAR THAT YOU’RE EATING YESTERDAYS LUNCH!!! NOW,THE NEXT TIME YOU RESPOND TO ME,STOP SOUNDING LIKE A LITTLE SCHOOL GIRL!
look Jerry. I never said that your friends are ‘retarded’ for being legal. I said they are a disgrace because they pretent to be people they are not. Just because they live in the U.S doesn’t make them ‘white’ or ‘American’ yet they think they are. I just wish I could see your face when the U.S government grants the 12+ million ‘illigals’ ,as you like to call them, citizenship because guess what? Its going to happen.
i just have to say, illegal immigrants are ruinning our country in front of us. We can’t do anything because,if we say something our government labels it as “discrimination”. There taking our jobs take our money from the economy and worse of all they never pay shit for taxes. I work alot and make decent amount of money, but when i hear that my tax money goes to pay for illegal students that pisses me off!
alex i completely agree with you. mexicans are ruining our country.
i agree with you to they suck
billions of dollars are being spent on illegal immigrants and we need to do something to stop that
you guys are right. we gotta do something to stop all this discrimination against Mexicans. they rock!
RACISTS!!!
All the name calling and personal attacks is verbal goolash.
It means nothing. There are real issues with illegal immigrants in America. The kind of issues that will have far ranging effects on our nation’s sovereignty and lifestyle.
The liberals are really going to take a licking. One good example, is abortion. The effect of the current illegals population influence in America will grow to to 100,000,000 persons within the next twenty years. The illegal Mexicans are Catholic, and the Catholic church advocates large families as the wealth of the people
The large number of Catholics will listen to the Priests and Bishops, etc. Those Mexican Americans, that’s what they’ll be in twenty years, will vote against abortion. The Catholic influence on America will be more significant than it has ever been in the history of this country.
The liberals whine about the Evangelicals, wait until they have to deal with the Pope and his boys. The liberals will be dealing with a tree that doesn’t bend.
HEY SHOE,AS USUAL YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.MY AMERICAN FRIENDS OF MEXICAN DESCENT ARE JUST THAT,THEY ARE AMERICANS FIRST.CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF BEING AN AMERICAN IN AMERICA ,OR DO YOU JUST HATE AMERICA SO MUCH THAT YOU WANT TO SEE IT EVOLVE INTO A THIRD WORLD CRAP HOLE LIKE MEXICO? JUST WHAT IN THE HELL MAKES YOU ALL GIGGLY ABOUT ILLEGALS TRYING TO TAKE OVER OUR COUNTRY? MAYBE IT’S JUST WHITES THAT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH. IT’S NOT A WHITE/ILLEGAL ISSUE WE’RE FACING IN AMERICA,IT’S AN AMERICAN/ILLEGAL ISSUE.WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT,THE SIMPLE FACT IS THAT ILLEGALS ARE KILLING OUR COUNTRY.WE ARE SPENDING BILLIONS OF AMERICAN TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON A BUNCH OF INVADERS,MOSTLY MEXICAN,WHO HAVE NO ALLEGIANCE TO OUR COUNTRY,NOR EVER WILL. YOU’RE RIGHT ABOUT ONE THING SHOE,MY FRIENDS WILL NEVER BE “WHITE” AS YOU PUT IT,BUT,THEY SURE AS HELL ARE AMERICAN AS ANY AMERICAN IN THE GOOD OLD UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.SO TELL ME SHOE,IS IT AMERICA THAT YOU DESPISE SO MUCH OR JUST WHITE PEOPLE? AND YOU’RE DAMNED RIGHT I CALL THEM ILLEGAL,BECAUSE THATS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE.PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME SHOE,WHAT WOULD CALL THEM? I THINK I’M GOING TO START CALLING YOU LEFT SHOE,BECAUSE YOU DEFINITELY SOUND LIKE A LIBERAL TO ME.——ALSO TO ” ME SAID” WELL STATED DIP SHIT! DOMINEAUX,YOU’RE RIGHT ON.BY THE WAY ,THE CATHOLIC CHURCH NEEDS TO HAVE ITS TAX EXEMPT STATUS TAKEN AWAY AND YOU’LL SEE THEM RUN AWAY FROM THE ILLEGAL ISSUE LIKE RATS OFF A SINKING SHIP! AND LASTLY, TO ALL RIGHT THINKING AMERICANS,OUR COUNTRY HAS NEVER SEEN AN INVASION LIKE THE ONE WE ARE EXPERIENCING NOW.WE HAD BETTER GET OUR ACT TOGETHER, OR OUR COUNTRY AS WE KNOW IT WILL BE LOST. DON’T WORRY ABOUT THE SHRILL SCREAMS OF “RACISTS” LIKE THAT DUMB ASS “ME SAID”. THAT’S ALL THEY HAVE.THEY ARE COMPLETELY VOID OF ANY FACTS TO BACK UP THE STUPID CLAIMS THEY MAKE,SO THEY YELL RACIST TO MAKE US COWER.OUR COUNTRY IS MUCH LIKE A PRESSURE COOKER RIGHT NOW,IF THE TENSION ISN’T RELIEVED PRETTY SOON,THERE WILL BE AN EXPLOSION,AND I GUARANTEE YOU ILLEGALS AND ILLEGAL SYMPATHIZERS THAT WHEN ALL THE SMOKE CLEARS,YOU WILL HAVE LOST.AND AMERICA WILL BE AMERICA AGAIN. JUST BECAUSE MOST OF OUR POLITICIANS ARE WEAK KNEED SLAVES TO BIG BUSINESS AND VOTE WHORES TO THE LATINO COMMUNITY,DON’T MAKE THE MISTAKE OF THINKING THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WON’T DEFEND OUR COUNTRY WITHIN OUR OWN BORDERS.
Man, I hate illegal immigrants. Go back to your own country and stop stinking ours up. Fucking assholes
what are other good websites to find out about immigration and its effects? I’m writing a research paper about how I think immigration is corrupting the US. I wanted to be specific with either Mexican immigrants or Cuban immigrants. Ideas???
by the way, you guys are mean on here!
Debating never works when you only insult the opposite argument. Be nice, Mexicans are people too. buut…they should just go be people in their own country
HI KtB,SORRY THAT YOU THINK WE’RE MEAN PEOPLE,BUT IT JUST DOESN’T WORK FOR ME TO TRY TO BE NICE TO A CLOSE MINDED LIBERAL WHOSE ONLY RATIONALE ON ANY SUBJECT IS COMPLETELY VOID OF FACT WHATSOEVER. ALL THEY WANT TO DO IS GET TOUCHY FEELY WITH YOU, AND THAT REALLY MAKES ME UNEASY TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM. WHY DON’T YOU TRY GOING TO YOUR LOCAL AIRPORT,I’M SURE YOU CAN FIND A GROUP OF TAMBORINE BANGERS,SINGING “WE ARE THE WORLD” WHO WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GIVE YOU THEIR SCREWED UP VERSION ON ANY SUBJECT YOU NEED TO KNOW. BETTER YET,JUST GET OUT AND LOOK AROUND YOU,YOU MIGHT NOTICE ALL THE MEXICAN FLAGS FLYING IN OUR COUNTRY,OR ALL THE SIGNS IN SPANISH.HOW ABOUT ALL THE MEDICAL FACILITIES CLOSING BECAUSE OF THE DRAIN BEING PUT ON THEM BY ILLEGALS,OR THE DEVASTATING EFFECT THEY ARE HAVING ON OUR SCHOOLS, NOT TO MENTION ALL THE DRUGS THAT ARE BEING SMUGGLED INTO AMERICA VIA WAY OF MEXICO,AND THE LIST OF PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ILLEGALS JUST GOES ON AND ON. HERE WE HAVE A BUNCH OF THIRD GRADE UNEDUCATED MORONS BOASTING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE OVER OUR COUNTRY AND KICK THE WHITE ANGLO OUT,AND AMERICANS ARE SUPPOSED TO JUST SIT BACK QUIETLY AND ALLOW THIS CRAP TO GO ON? NOT ON YOUR LIFE! IF IT TAKES BEING “MEAN” TO GET MY POINT ACROSS TO THESE DAMN KNUCKLEHEADS,SO BE IT.TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH,I THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A MUCH LARGER PROBLEM IN THE NEAR FUTURE THAN JUST TALKING MEAN TO EACH OTHER. I PERSONALLY AM CONVINCED THAT THESE ILLEGAL ALIEN CRIMINALS HAVE AN AGENDA TO ACTUALLY TRY TO TAKE OVER PARTS OF OUR COUNTRY BY SHEER WEIGHT OF NUMBERS,AND THAT THERE WILL BE VIOLENCE. BEING NICE DOESN’T ALWAYS WORK FRIEND. UNLIKE SO MANY LIBERALS OUT THERE,I REFUSE TO GIVE AWAY MY COUNTRY WITHOUT A FIGHT IF IT COMES TO IT. HAVE A GREAT DAY! BTW,GOOD LUCK ON YOUR RESEARCH PAPER.
WHAT THE HELL! AS LONG AS I’M BEING MEAN,I JUST WANT TO TELL ALL YOU JACKASSES OUT THERE WHO EMPLOY ILLEGALS THAT YOU ARE DOING NOTHING MORE THAN SELLING OUT OUR COUNTRY.BY STUFFING A FEW MORE DOLLARS IN YOUR POCKETS NOW,YOU ARE ENABLING THE DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA. HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT KNOWING WHAT YOU ARE DOING? HOPEFULLY YOU WILL BE PUT OUT OF BUSINESS SOON,AND THE POLITICIANS ALLOWING THIS TO GO ON WILL HAVE THEIR BUTTS PUT IN JAIL.I WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN TO HAVE TO PAY A LITTLE MORE FOR MY VEGETABLES AND BE RID OF THE PROBLEM WE ARE NOW FACING. DAMN IT FEELS GOOD TO BE MEAN!
Guess what Jerry?! The government is going to pass an immigration amnesty and all illegals will now be legal residents. Isn’t that so cool?!
GUESS WHAT ME ?! TO A TOTAL MORON LIKE YOURSELF,AMNESTY WOULD BE A COOL THING INDEED. ONLY IT WOULD NOT JUST BE THE ILLEGALS WHO WOULD BECOME “LEGAL”,IT WOULD ALSO MEAN THAT THEIR EXTENDED FAMILIES WOULD THEN BE ALLOWED TO MIGRATE INTO OUR COUNTRY TO THE TUNE OF AT LEAST SIXTY OR SEVENTY MILLION UNSKILLED WORKERS WHO WOULD THEN EXPECT SOCIAL SERVICES BE GIVEN THEM ON THE BACKS OF AMERICAN TAXPAYERS.ISN’T THAT JUST TOO COOL YOU FRIGGIN IDIOT? IT NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE SUCH AS YOU RUNNING LOOSE IN THE UNITED STATES.YOU WON’T BE HAPPY UNTIL YOU SEE OUR COUNTRY GIVEN AWAY. DO ME ONE FAVOR AND PLEASE TELL ME EXACTLY WHY YOU THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING FOR A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO OBVIOUSLY DON’T CARE ABOUT OUR COUNTRY,OR OUR WAY OF LIFE,TO BE GIVEN CITIZENSHIP. YOU SEEM LIKE SUCH A HEAVY THINKER ,THAT THIS SHOULDN’T BE TOO HARD A TASK FOR YOU. IS THERE A POINT WHEN EVEN YOU WOULD SAY THAT THERE ARE TOO MANY ILLEGALS IN AMERICA? PROBABLY NOT. ONE THING YOU CAN COUNT ON IF AMNESTY DOES PASS,IS THAT THERE WILL BE A BACKLASH LIKE YOU’VE NEVER SEEN IN THIS COUNTRY . OUR VERY CULTURE IS AT STAKE HERE,BUT I’M PRETTY SURE THAT YOU DON’T CARE ANYTHING ABOUT AMERICAN CULTURE. PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I’M WRONG. I’LL BE WAITING FOR YOUR RESPONSE
ha!
i was actually hoping i could get some decent help from someone on here.
i think someone (Jerry) just has nothing else to do with their time besides argue a point.
If you feel so strongly about this topic, why dont you get up out of your computer chair and do something about it. I feel the same way as you do (minus some of the plain racist things you say) and I’ve decided not to waste my time being a closed minded jerk on a freaking computer blog. I honestly think people can make a difference in our laws and government but you’re going about it in a completely immature and useless way.
I do however thank you for some of the points you have made about immigration and i’ve decided to use some of those points in my research paper.
Jerry just has his way of saying it. It sure doesn’t bother me to read his postings, and clear display of his “vehement attitude”. Jerry understands the situation alot better than all the smaltz characters that go through their long itterations of equality and amnesty.
Go to a hospital emergency room, go to the IRS office, go to the post office, go just about anywhere and get in line behind people that should NOT even be in this country. You shouldn’t even have to stand in those lines, especially if our government was doing it’s job. I recently spent over three hours renewing my driver’s license standing behind lines of people that didn’t even belong in this country. That really jerks my chain our local governments don’t have the facility, money or people to handled these people. The sad part… most of the illegal aliens are so stupid they require a great deal more instruction for the simplest things. Standing in line behind them makes me angry… we should at least have a line for legal citizens.
I would hate to be stuck behind a bunch of illegals in the hospital waiting room, and have one of my children denied timely care that might cost my child’s life. I’ll guarantee you it’s already happening.
There is only one way America can afford Amnesty to the millions of illegals in our country. The American property owner is going to have to pay exorbitant ad-valorem tax bills. The reason the American Property owner will be paying for it… property can be taken away if the taxes aren’t paid. This is the kind of leverage governments need to collect enough money on a timely basis to provide the benefits assured to people in this country. The local governments have no choice they can’t keep the local community solvent unless taxes go up.
You can blame big Multi-National companies for this economic war on Americans. Americans have made it more than clear what they want. Americans want secure borders and no amnesty for illegal aliens. American elected officials know what Americans want, when do the tyrannical jerks do what their constituents are demanding?
We elect those jerks, and they quickly ignore who put them in office and go about their business of selling out our country to special interests, foreign countries and Multi-national companies.
Jerry sure as heck hasn’t even touched on all the illegal alien problems, now or in the future. Maybe it wouldn’t hurt for a lot more of us to get mad as hell.
So many respondents keep bringing the issue of illegal immigration back to RACE. The reason for that is… The American people have been pushed into the “Racism” corner many times and the attackers generally get their way.
Illegal immigration is about people that have absolutely no business in America, and they are not here except as a liability. They cannot pay their own way, because most are too poorly educated to make enough money to provide for more than basic necessities.
Sure, there are some people that discuss illegal immigration in terms of race, but the fundamental issue is not race. It’s about being in a place you aren’t supposed to be.
If a person breaks out a window or climbs over a fence and into someones property that person can be prosecuted by law. They can be charged with trespass, illegal entry and robbery when they take something that doesn’t belong to them.
Isn’t that exactly what illegal aliens are doing? They climb the fence or enter the country by whatever means is convenient. Illegal aliens steal social services, services Americans pay for Americans. Illegal aliens are trespassers and criminals.
It’s not about race, it’s about climbing over the neighbors fence and stealing from him.
There are laws that allow legal immigration, but illegal aliens are too stupid and lazy for the most part to make the effort to become citizens. They certainly don’t want to be a part of our country. If they did, they’d make every effort to learn the language, customs and laws of this country.
For the most part Mexican illegals are totally opposed to the American way of life, and have no inclination to be a part of this country. They’re here to take all they can take, take and take.
Thieves.
WELL JUST DAMN!!! DOMINEAUX, FROM YOUR LAST LETTER,IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR COMING OVER TO THE DARK SIDE ! WELCOME MY SON ! AND TO YOU KtB , YOU LITTLE MILKTOAST,YOU NEED TO FIND YOURSELF A MORE LIBERAL WEBSITE. YOU MAY NOT LIKE THE WAY I SAY THINGS, BUT I DARE YOU TO SHOW ME WHERE I’M WRONG. YOU ALSO SAID THAT I MADE SOME RACIST COMMENTS. WHERE ? YOU’RE DAMN RIGHT I’M PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT I SAY ,BUT IT’S A PASSION BASED ON FACTS, AND JUDGING FROM YOUR LETTER,YOU WOULDN’T KNOW A FACT IF IT HIT YOU SQUARE IN THE ASS . I’M SURE THERE’S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WILL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR PARTNER,BUT I’M NOT ONE OF THEM.LIKE I’VE SAID BEFORE ,AND I’LL SAY IT AGAIN,ALL YOU LIBERALS HAVE IS YOUR TOUCHY FEELY AGENDAS, AND OF COURSE THE “RACE CARD”. INSTEAD OF RELYING ON OTHERS FOR YOUR INFORMATION KtB,WHY DON’T YOU GET OFF YOUR BUTT AND LOOK AROUND FOR YOURSELF,YOU MIGHT BE SURPRISED AT WHAT YOU SEE.
I’ve seen a major change in the way ad-valorem property taxes are being collected during the past few years. These are the taxes that are levied on American property owners to pay for so many of the exorbitant costs of services paid for Illegal Aliens. Among the services are indigent medical care, schooling of children, welfare assistance, crime fighting and legal costs, etc.
The local governments do not have any excess funding to meet any extraordinary item expenses. The local governments are not only strapped for cash, but manpower, facilities and equipment as well.
I own serveral properties apart from my home, and I get threatning collection letters now for payment of taxes on these properties. I mean like I get FORECLOSURE NOTICE when taxes are due for the current year. The local governments now work hand in hand with law firms to expedite tax foreclosures. The only relief they provide is for 65 years of age or older, disabled and the property is a residence homestead.
I’ve felt increasing financial pressures from taxing authorities every year and it’s getting continually worse as the influx of illegal immigrants continues to grow.
Americans living in apartments, or renting or only have a single family residence aren’t feeling the financial pressures to a large extent. Yet, people that own single family residences should be feeling pressure. The current financial pressures are nothing like it will be if our government grants amnesty to the millions of illegal aliens that cannot pay their own way in our society.
I understand the average education of Mexican National illegal aliens is 7th grade, which means most probably cannot read or write. These people are dragging down our entire society. I recently read where less than 50% of hispanics graduate high school. What a joke, they get a free education, free lunches, get free transportation to school and they could care less about education. Our education system is just a babysitting program that extends through 12th grade for these illegal immigrants or children of illegal immigrants.
Failure to educate is the major ingredient in the failure of these people in their own country. Why would their poor government want to waste what little resources are available on people that could care less.
I am 100% FOR LEGAL IMMIGRATION. People that come to this country and make extraordinary efforts to learn in school, accept our culture, speak our language and embrace America are the kind of people we want.
Hey jerry, i can see that you have posted many more ignorant messages you obviously dont have a life….well first off I just wanted to start out by saying how fucking ignorant you are Im sure you’ve heard it plenty of times throughout your life, but I just wanted to remind you once again. First off if Mexicans are so stupid like you say they wouldnt be in this country. Yeah they cant take over Their own country becuase its full of corruption people dont really have a voice out there so it makes it nearly impossible to try to change a country like that and that is why they are here if they were so stupid like you say they would stay in Mexico and starve any person in their right mind will do whatever possible to get out of that type of poverty and that is exactly why they are here. When you say they are too stupid to take over the U.S….Look around you moron you see Latino shops, Mexican restaurants, Spanish radio stations, oh and look around you will find signs that are in spanish!!!! Oh and Mr. IGNORANT can you tell me what kind of diseases mexicans are bringing in???????????? because i have not heard of any if you know a bit about your own fucking history you would see that the white man was the first to bring disease!!!!!! By the way who the hell asked you about your “legal Mexican” friends????? I really dont give a damn what they think, they are just as fucking ignorant as you!!!! Hey maybe you should consider getting away from them you know they might give you that Mexican disease!!! lol damn you are funny! Well let me just tell you this one more time WE Are here to stay!! YOU SHOULD STOP PULLING BULLSHIT OUT OF YOUR ASS AND INSTEAD PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS!!! MAYBE THAT WAY YOU WILL SNAP BACK INTO REALITY DUMBASS!!
WELL NOW, ADRIANA, WHERE DO I START?OH YEAH,TRY TO USE SOME PUNCTUATION IN YOUR SENTENCES. AND PUNCTUATION IS NOT SOMETHING YOU DO WITH JOSE! THANKS FOR WORRYING ABOUT ME NOT HAVING A LIFE,BUT IN FACT I DO. IT USED TO BE A WHOLE LOT BETTER BEFORE THE ONSLAUGHT OF ALL YOU STINKING ILLEGALS. I HATE TO BE THE ONE TO BREAK IT TO YOU,BUT ,YES,MEXICANS CAN BE IN AMERICA AND BE STUPID. TAKE YOU FOR EXAMPLE. YOU SOUNDED A LOT DUMBER IN YOUR LAST LETTER THAN I HAD ORIGINALLY GIVEN YOU CREDIT FOR. BUT,THEN AGAIN,I’M SURE THAT YOU’RE STUPID JUST ABOUT ANYWHERE YOU GO. YOU ARE CORRECT IN YOUR STATEMENT THAT MEXICO IS A CORRUPT COUNTRY,BUT, I DISAGREE WITH YOU THAT YOU CANNOT EFFECT CHANGE IN YOUR HOMELAND. WHAT A SORRY LOT OF PEOPLE YOU ARE, THAT YOU WOULD RATHER COME TO AMERICA AND HOLD YOUR RALLIES AND TELL AMERICANS HOW BAD WE ARE, RATHER THAN FIX YOUR OWN SORRY-ASS GOVERNMENT. AS FAR AS STARVING,I HAVEN’T SEEN VERY MANY SKINNY FOLKS SNEAKING ACROSS THE BORDER. AS I’VE SAID BEFORE,MEXICO IS A WEALTHY NATION ,BUT MOST OF YOU PEONS ARE JUST TOO DAMN IGNORANT ,OR TOO DAMN LAZY TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT CHANGING YOUR PLOT IN LIFE IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY, IT’S A WHOLE LOT EASIER FOR ILLEGALS TO COME HERE AND PLAY THE POOR VICTIMIZED IMMIGRANT,WHEN, IN FACT, YOU ARE NOT AN IMMIGRANT AT ALL,YOU ARE ONLY A BOIL ON THE BUTT OF AMERICAN SOCIETY. ARE YOU PROUD OF THE FACT THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF SIGNS IN SPANISH IN AMERICA ?I’M SURE YOU ARE . TO ME IT ONLY MEANS THAT YOUR PEOPLE HAVE NO DESIRE TO ASSIMMILATE INTO AMERICAN CULTURE. DON’T YOU THINK THAT IF YOU COME TO ANOTHER COUNTRY TO LIVE,THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME COMMON COURTESY ,AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE OF THAT COUNTRY? AGAIN I’M SURE YOU DON’T. DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT WOULD ALLOW THEIR BRIGHTEST MINDS TO LEAVE? NOT ONLY NO,BUT HELL NO! THEY ONLY LET THE DREGS OF THEIR SOCIETY OUT.PEOPLE MUCH LIKE YOU ADRIANA. ON THE SUBJECT OF DISEASES,WHEN THE WHITE MAN CAME TO THE NEW WORLD HE DID INTRODUCE SOME DISEASES,BUT HAS SINCE ERRADICATED THEM . HERES A FEW BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE BY YOUR DISEASE RIDDEN ILLEGALS—- “LEPROSY”-IN FORTY YEARS PRIOR TO 2002,THERE WERE ONLY NINE HUNDRED CASES OF LEPROSY IN AMERICA,SINCE 2002 THERE HAVE BEEN OVER NINE THOUSAND CASES OF THE DISEASE,AND ALMOST ALL WERE ATTRIBUTED TO ILLEGALS.” SICKLE CELL”-ONE IN SIXTEEN MEXICANS CARRY THE GENETIC TRAIT FOR SICKLE CELL. HERE’S ONE YOU’LL LIKE,”NEUROCYSTICEROSIS”- CARRIERS OF THIS DISEASE TEND TO BE PEOPLE FROM RURAL DEVELOPING COUNTRIES WITH POOR HYGIENE,WHERE PIGS ARE ALLOWED TO ROAM FREELY AND EAT HUMAN FECES. THE CONDITION IS RIFE IN MEXICO. WHAT THEY’RE SAYING IS THAT WHEN YOU SNEAK INTO AMERICA,”WASH YOUR SORRY ASS” HERE’S A COUPLE MORE- TUBERCULOSIS,POLIO,MALARIA,DENGUE FEVER,CHAGAS DISEASE,ETC.ETC. YOU ILLEGALS ARE KILLING OUR COUNTRY,AND YOU DO NOT CARE. YOU HAVE NO LOVE FOR AMERICA WHATSOEVER. WHAT I AM HEARING FROM YOU CRIMINALS, IS THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE OVER OUR COUNTRY. WHY DON’T YOU JUST STOP ALL THE BULLSHIT AND DO IT? WE’LL SEE WHO STAYS. THOUGHT YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT IT WAS ANNOUNCED ON THE NEWS TODAY, THAT ANOTHER EMERGENCY CENTER IS BEING CLOSED DOWN IN A NEIGHBORING TOWN OF MINE BECAUSE ILLEGALS HAVE SUCKED IT DRY,JUST LIKE THEY ARE SUCKING OUR WHOLE COUNTRY DRY! BY THE WAY,IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO READ ABOUT THE DISEASES I HAVE LISTED,CHECK OUT THE JOURNAL OF AMERICAN PHYSICIANS AND SURGEONS,BUT THEY WOULD ALL BE LYING,RIGHT? TO ANY OF YOU FOLKS OUT THERE WHO ENJOY GOING OUT TO A RESTAURANT,PLEASE REMEMBER THAT A LOT OF DISEASES ARE PASSED ON TO YOU COURTESY OF MEXICO. THEY ARE NASTY LITTLE FUCKERS!
It would be nice if both sides in this immigration issue would stop the name calling and fowl language. I believe that the citizens of this country be they white or black or Hispanic have the right to control their own borders and set the criteria for the immigration policies of our county. The middle class in this country is a pawn for business that want cheap labor and the democrats who want free votes. We the middle class pay the bills for the illegals health care, schooling and prisons. But the bottom line is how many is enough. If we grant amnesty to 12-20 million illegals, does that mean that that ends it. In 1986 we granted it to 3million ( it was suppose to be only 1million). So does that mean in 15-20 years we then grant it to 50-60 million?. So how many is enough?
miamigirl
Good response!
The sad part is our government has neglected to enforce our immigration laws for so long there just isn’t going to be an easy way out.
My personal experience with Mexican National illegal immigrants has been nothing but extremely cordial and friendly. These are not bad people for the most part.
We have a lot of crime associated with illegal immigrants, but historically speaking we have had the same thing problems with every large immigrant group that came to America (even legally), i.e. the Irish, the Italians, etc.
The government of Mexico is driving people out of their country, and our apathetic government is just watching them cross the border. America has always been a half-ass friend to Mexico. Twenty years ago, when Mexicans were crossing the border in America in large numbers the flag should have gone up. The Mexican people were communicating in the only way they knew. The were leaving their country in the thousands. America could have helped.
American business has been so pervasive in the running of our country. Businessmen had the answer - the Maquiladora plants lining the border was our answer to the misery in Mexico.
Mexicans migrated from remote regions of their own country to work in those Maquiladora plants stretching along the border with Mexico/America.
The Mexicans working in those plants were poorly educated, indigent and without hope. These workers may have been uneducated, but they weren’t stupid. The began to see it was easy to acquire a better life for their families by just going a little further…cross the border.
The Maquiladora plants still draw their share of indigent Mexicans throughout Mexico, and still these people see a better future in America.
During the past ten years American business altered the business model. Why build plants in Mexico, just let the Mexicans cross the border and work them cheap in America. No need to spend all that money building plants, or messing with a corrupt Mexican government. They will come to America as long as we let them.
Our government should have tried to become more involved with the people of Mexico, rather than let business take over and exploit them for labor. Exploitation could have had some benefits for Mexico, if we would have built schools, hospitals, and other infrastructure to make a better life for Mexicans.
American business did not or never will have the answer to unifying or making relations “genuinely” better between ANY COUNTRY. The almighty dollar serves well, but only goes so far.
Governments like Mexico are autocratic and apathetic towards their own people. The passivity of the Mexican people keeps them from revolution, which is what they need. Mexico is rich in natural resources, which are controlled by an Oligarchy of the rich and powerful. Those resources belong to the people, yet the people of Mexico will not rebel and take authority over their own resources.
The goverment of Mexico would have certainly failed by now, if America had not enabled the rich and powerful in Mexico by allowing an open border. The government of Mexico is going to do every possible thing it can to keep that border open, which may mean sanctions against America. Don’t laugh, we need the resources of Mexico…not their people.
MIAMIGIRL, YOU’RE RIGHT, IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD DISCUSS THE ILLEGAL SITUATION LIKE GROWN-UPS,UNFORTUNATELY MOST OF THE ILLEGALS IN OUR COUNTRY HAVE NO DESIRE TO DISCUSS ANYTHING IN AN INTELLIGENT MANNER, THEY ARE HERE, THEY HAVE AN AGENDA, AND THAT IS ALL THERE IS TO IT IN THEIR EYES. I HONESTLY DON’T THINK THAT THEY UNDERSTAND HOW AMERICANS FEEL ABOUT THE SOVEREIGNTY OF AMERICA, AND WHAT LENGHTS WE WILL GO TO TO PROTECT THAT SOVEREIGNTY. WHAT THEY NEED IN MEXICO IS A GOOD OLD FASHION REVOLUTION. THEY SEEM TO HAVE NO PROBLEM GETTING LARGE NUMBERS OF PROTESTERS TOGETHER IN OUR COUNTRY, WHY CAN’T THEY GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY AND OVERTHROW THAT SORRY EXCUSE THEY HAVE FOR A GOVERNMENT? I’M SORRY,I JUST FIND IT DIFFICULT TO FEEL MUCH COMPASSION FOR A COUNTRY FULL OF PEOPLE WHO WONT STAND UP FOR THEMSELVES, AND WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO SELL AMERICA OUT FASTER THAN CRAP THROUGH A GOOSE. AMERICA TAKES IN MORE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS YEARLY THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, WE ARE A VERY COMPASSIONATE COUNTRY,BUT WE SHOULD NOT BE SUBJECTED TO THE WHOLESALE ONSLAUGHT FROM OUR “FRIENDS” SOUTH OF THE BORDER. TRY GOING TO MEXICO AND PULLING SOME OF THE GARBAGE ILLEGALS ARE GETTING AWAY WITH IN OUR COUNTRY. THEY WOULDN’T PUT UP WITH IT FOR ONE DAMN MINUTE, BUT WE ARE EXPECTED TO.WHERE’S THE JUSTICE IN THAT? ALL WE DO IS SIT AROUND AND TALK ABOUT THIS, AND DEBATE THAT,AND ALL THE WHILE ILLEGALS ARE STILL FLOODING IN WITH IMPUNITY. IT HAS TO STOP. MAYBE A REVOLUTION IN OUR OWN COUNTRY WOULDN’T BE SUCH A BAD IDEA, I DON’T REALLY WANT ONE , BUT WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF OPTIONS. OUR GOVERNMENT OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS OF AMERICA AT HEART ANY LONGER. IF ANYONE HAS A SOLUTION TO THIS MESS, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IT.
BTW MIAMIGIRL, IN REGARDS TO YOUR QUESTION CONCERNING WHETHER GIVING THE ILLEGALS IN OUR COUNTRY AMNESTY,THE ANSWER IS NO, IT WOULD BY NO MEANS END THE FLOOD OF ILLEGALS. AS SOON AS ALL THE ILLEGALS WERE GIVEN AMNESTY, THEY WOULD ALL BE ALLOWED TO BRING IN THEIR EXTENDED FAMILY MEMBERS TO THE TUNE OF GOD KNOWS HOW MANY MORE MILLIONS, AND THE BORDER STILL WOULD NOT BE SECURED,OUR GOVERNMENT, BIG BUSINESS, AND THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT WOULD SEE TO THAT. WE ARE TOTALLY SCREWED, UNLESS WE TAKE SOME DRASTIC MEASURES.
I agree with miami girl that this country, just like any other sovereign nation, ought to be allowed to put in place measures necessary to secure it’s borders and determine appropriate immigration laws and regulations. I feel however that there are several issues in this debate that have been and continue to be overlooked. The first one is that the U.S. has established itself as a capitalist society and laws of production cost minimization in order to ensure profit maximization apply. America is a business or industry focused nation. If the U.S. is going to be a purely capitalist society within an increasingly global community then it has to realise that there will be more opportunities for business to cut down on costs. In this case this lowering of production costs comes in the form of ‘illegal immigrants’. You cannot have your cake and eat it too unfortunately. Another issue that needs pointing out is that pretty much every individual in this country (with the exception of the Native American) is a product of some sort of immigration more illigal than legal. It is for that reason that I find it rather interesting that many of the people who display the most animosity towards immigrants (both legal and illigal) can be traced back to the ‘friendly’ pilgrims who having been ‘invited’ to migrate to the U.S decided to systematically kill the natives and advance their own agenda. Finger pointing in my opinion gets us nowhere because for every finger you have pointed at one individual there are several ones pointed at you. I do not believe a militant approach to this issue is appropriate. I think anyone coming into this country should be expected to abide by the laws here at the same time I think the U.S. needs to re-evaluate it’s immigration policies to ensure that well meaning migrants are not unecessarily hindered. The American values that most speak of did not fall from the sky but are an amalgamation of cultures, attitudes and beliefs brought in from various parts of the world.
non-immigrant
I would like to address some of your issues and raise a few of my own. Yes, we are becoming more and more an capitalist society not only because of globalization, but also because of the greed of some if not most of US Companies. You can just look at the large gap between the Ceo ’s compensation and that of the working man or woman (I can’t cite the figures now but I will post them later) Our law makers seem to serve their interests more than the the needs and pocketbooks of the tax payers. Are you saying that business will always need illegal immigrants to compete in todays markets? If this is so, than the passing of this latest amnesty is really a hoax, as was the amnesty of 1986. As to the having your cake and eating it too, this is made possible by the middle class picking up the tab for health care, schooling and other costs that are generated by cheap labor. (not cheap to the bottom line to those who have to pay it)
Next lets deal with the issue of who has a right to be here. It seems to me that when one questions what right to the present citizens of this country have to pass judgement on who should be allow to stay or leave. It’s about rubbing our noses in our countries shameful past. . We are being told that you (meaning the present citizens) are also here illegally and you have no right to stop us. Make no mistake we have a shameful past both with the way we settled this land the introduction of slavery, but some people would agree that we have as a whole done more good than bad as a country. I would also like to reminder you and others that the Native American migrated from Asia and who knows who they met on their way and was displaced.
Watch the Lou Dobbs new broadcast on CNN. It’s on weekdays 3PM PST and 6PM EST.
Dobbs is addressing immigration and business issues that are affecting our middle class.
The strength of the middle class is what has made America great. If the middle class is wiped out we’ll have the same thing they have in Mexico and the rest of South America. Elite class with the education and money, and the peons with no money no education…and no hope.
I was watching all the jibe on TV tonight and those smilin’ congressional ferrets are just going to pass another immigration bill that won’t be administered or enforced by the government.
They’re going to pass another “in word only” immigration laws to get Americans thinking about something else. It’ll be back to the same old open borders and invasion by illegals in a short time.
If the American tax system wasn’t voluntary the government would be broke. Our government is so inept the perpetrators would have to walk up to them and tell them they were disobeying the way, and still the bureaucrats wouldn’t know what to do about it.
The government bureucrats would tell them to go home, and come back on Tuesday or some junk like that.
This is the way of it, and I hate having to say what I believe will result.
Looks like Americans are in dire need of researching U.S. history. I’ve noticed that proponents of illegal immigration are adept at comparing their illegal act of crossing into the U.S. with that of slavery. And I am sick of the U.S. taking the rap for the whole world!
First of all, slave trading was performed by many countries and Africian tribes even sold off their own people and people of neighboring tribes. One cannot impose today’s values upon another period in history because things were different. In colonial times, there were very few people to work If you look at the colonial records, etc. you will find that some slaves were treated well. Frankly, from the figures that a Mexican worker earns per day and the way they live in Mexico, the slaves were probably treated much better. Many of our ancestors may have been indentured servants-the difference being that they did have a limit on the length of their servitude. In addition, Mexico did have slaves as early as 1519 although it is doubtful the Mexican community will have knowledge of it or acknowledge the fact. COLONIAL AND U. S. LAWS REGARDING SLAVERY DID NOT EXIST BEFORE THE CIVIL WAR SO NO LAW WAS BROKEN. No matter how you feel about it today.
Another argument seems to be that “we stole the land from them”. Well, I fail to understand how we stole land from them when they crossed our borders and killed residents on our soil (1848). Then, when we entered into war with them and won, we paid them $15,000,000 for California, undisputed control of Texas, Nevada, Utah, parts of Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico and Wyoming. The U. S. government also agreed to settle all claims of U. S. citizens against Mexico which, I believe, was around $3 million. In 1853 the U.S. purchased land which is now southern Arizona and southern New Mexico for an additional $10,000,000. Mexican residents had a choice to remain and become U. S. citizens
Some of our ancestors had to endure the harrowing experience of Ellis Island before they could even enter the country; some were turned away. Yet, the illegals are coming across the border without so much as a tongue depresser stuck in their mouth.
Shouting “racist” seems to be the favorite, easiest avenue but in reading these posts illegals and pro-illegal immigration advocates might do well to look in the mirror.
It’s Ok to try to discuss history, but like most of the responses we make…they ain’t listening. You’re right of course, they also don’t know zip about history. Obviously, the future of America is at the mercy of world class dummies, when you consider the debaucle of our current education system.
The foreign students know more about America than our own kids. You want to control a discussion, just discuss history with college graduates of the past twenty years. You might find one college educated person that didn’t sleep through history, but you’ll undoubtably never find a high school graduate that knows any history.
Here is an article I wrote on how so much has been allowed by our so-called representative government.
http://blograz.com/raz/?p=13
I find it interesting how ill-informed most people are. I think this stems from the fact Americans have always trusted their government. The American government hasn’t made a boo boo before equal to allowing our borders to be so insecure, allowing millions of invading illegal immigrants.
Most Americans just kinda whine about illegal immigration and expect the government to do something about it. The illegal immigrants are too stupid and lazy to do anything about their future in America. The multi-national companies, and special interests groups will sure fight for the dummies to keep exploiting them.
Government has got to step up and do the job Americas expect. Protect our people, uphold their rights, uphold the Constitution and aid in the betterment of life for our cititzens.
Americans are too lazy to do all the jobs that “illegal immigrants are taking away from us”
JERRY, how old are you?
You act like you are an unhappy 40 year-old bachelor. I’m curious to know how old you really are. It’s hard to tell because the points you make are educated but the way you speak makes you sound like a 6 or 7 year old. Although, it IS entertaining to read your comments because they make me laugh.
domineaux
I read your article and totally agree with you. I also agree that nothing any of us say is going to make a difference to the illegals. I suppose to them, this is a booming economy but to me we are going into very tough times. I don’t have the luxury of a family of 15 contributing financially for combined survival just as most “Americans” don’t.
I have never before in my life written to a congressman/woman until now and I really don’t have any confidence that they are going to listen to native constituents. I know my own situation is rapidly becoming desperate and I have a friend who is in extreme financial and medical difficulty; there is no help for her. And might I add, neither of us have ever been on welfare or any other subsidy. In fact, if needed, our chances are nil. Many others are in this same type of situation. Yet, we can foot the bills for people who enter the country illegally. Meanwhile the rising costs are making it impossible for our own children (who do work, by the way) to afford even an apartment and get started on their own lives or to get a decent education. If the majority of Americans didn’t have superb work ethics, this country wouldn’t be a place the illegals would want to come. Never, in my life, have I hired anyone to do work for me that I could do myself.
I would really like to hear if anyone has any feasible suggestions on just how we might get Congress to listen to us because it sure isn’t happening now. I can’t afford to go to any of the demonstrations (something else I have never participated in) I’ve always been very proud of this country and been very patriotic but right now, I feel like American citizens have been very (excuse me, but for lack of a better word) SCREWED!
fedup
Your friend that needs medical care… that is always the kind of thing I hate to read about. Indigents get care, and middle class Americans have to pay. The hospitals and doctors will hound an American citizen to the grave for the money owed them. They’ll ruin your credit, file lawsuits, sieze your home or other assets to get paid.
This might help your friend, it is an over simplification, the concept is solid.
You might tell your friend, who isn’t completely broke to put personal assets into a trust/s, make children or other loved-ones as beneficiaries of the trust. Cars, homes, all kinds of assets can go into trusts. Then your friend will have effectively have few assets, and no one can attach those assets in trust. Your friend can declare poverty and get medicaid.
It won’t help with dental, but it will work with medical. It is senseless to lose everything someone has worked a lifetime for and end up penniless. Our government apathy towards citizens has created this mess, let the government pay for it and tell your friend not to think twice about it.
I know it sounds terrible to have to resort to such skull duggery. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve known people who worked all their lives and had failing health. Those people had already signed over their homes and property to hospitals to pay their bills. The hospitals were patiently dealing with the situation. As soon as the patient died then the hospital passively took possession of the home and assets of the patient.
If there was a surviving spouse, that spouse agreed to take it someplace else for the consideration of time allowed by the hospital to let the patient reside in the home until death.
That is still going on all over America.
There are 45 miillion American citizens without health care. It is crisis and our government is twiddling thumbs and doing nothing.
I appreciate reading your responses.
domineaux
I appreciate your repsonses as well. I have phoned my friend and read her your information. She had thought about it before but there are some circumstances involved which may cause a problem. She really needs advice from an attorney but she lives in a rather remote area and it’s pretty well locked up. There are no attorneys who give a free first consultation to even get her started. I still think there must be a way somewhere but I don’t know where to look for it.
Too bad we aren’t as informed as to how to work through our own system as the illegals seem to be.
fedup
Sad to say, but she’s going to need an attorney. She cannot afford to have ill-prepared or unlawful documents. She will have to look at it this way. She will be able to save most of everything she has and can pass those assets to loved ones. The proceeds of a trust normally do not even have to pass through probate as beneficiaries are defined within the documents.
Health problems will force her to make distateful choices. She will have to deal with the health issues, and the alternatives are all going to be hard decisions for her. I know how hard it is for self-reliant people who have never asked for charity. Our government has sat on it’s apathetic you know what and it has forced people to forgo their dignity to just survive.
I would suggest she share her plight with those who stand to gain from her being able to retain her assets through a trust arrangement. I know personally of an elderly couple with no children who got their grand nieces and nephews to come up with the money to do the estate plans. The husband had huge medical bills and she was able to live on their family farm (48 acres) until she died 12 years later. The farm then went to the nephews and nieces at her death. The nephews and nieces acqured the property at her death, which they would not have received had the property not been in a trust.
The little farm appreciated in value and the heirs sold it for 2,600 per acre. It would have been terrible for the elderly couple, who had lived on that farm over ninety years to have left nothing to their loved ones.
If your friend is to proud too do that, she might sit down and think about leaving her heirs nothing. I think her heirs would appreciate her candor and thoughtfulness to try to do something for them. Anyone that would be disrespectful of her for making such a request shouldn’t be allowed to participate as a beneficiary of her trust/s.
I think she could probably get well-meaning strangers to participate in such an arrangement, even if she had a very small estate. It is hard to argue with pennies for dollars.
domineaux
Thank you for so much for your input. There are some other factors that need to come to light but I don’t believe it is appropriate on this blog as it is getting off track of the subject matter; it isn’t fair to others. I would be willing to set up another email address solely for that purpose and at the end terminate that address. Would you be willing to do the same? The ideas a much needed.
ANONYMOUS, I JUST CAN’T SEEM TO GET AWAY FROM YOUR LIBERAL DRIBBLE. I TOLD YOU ON ANOTHER SITE THAT I AM A VIETNAM VETERAN AND WAS IN THE MARINE CORPS. HAVE YOU BEEN IN A COMA ? THAT SHOULD GIVE YOU AN INDICATION OF MY AGE , OR ,DON’T YOU KNOW HOW TO COUNT? IF YOU’RE REALLY CURIOUS,WHY DON’T YOU COME DOWN TO GEORGIA ON THE 22nd OF THIS MONTH, WE’RE HAVING A BIKER PARTY, I’LL GIVE YOU THE ADDRESS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME . BY THE WAY, YOU STARTED YOUR LETTER WITH (AMERICANS ARE TOO LAZY TO DO ALL THE JOBS THAT “ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE TAKING AWAY FROM US”.) THAT STATEMENT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME WHATSOEVER. PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME AS TO WHAT YOU MEANT BY IT. I’M ALSO GLAD THAT I MAKE YOU LAUGH, AT LEAST YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR MISERABLE LITTLE LIFE . AS FAR AS MY LIFE GOES, IT COULDN’T BE BETTER, I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL WIFE, I OWN MY OWN BUSINESS, AND I RIDE MY HARLEY. WHY DON’T YOU DO YOURSELF A FAVOR ANONYMOUS ,AND CORRESPOND WITH ADRIANA IN THE FUTURE , I THINK THE TWO OF YOU HAVE A LOT MORE IN COMMON THAN WE DO, AND I KNOW THAT YOU LIBERALS ONLY WANT TO TALK TO PEOPLE WHO AGREE WITH THEM.YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND ANONYMOUS , I LOVE MY COUNTRY, AND YOU WANT TO GIVE IT AWAY.
Jerry
Anyone that hides behind “anonymous” isn’t worth responding to. Kinda like on TV when they black out peoples faces. B.S. is all that kinda junk is. Anyone that is too big a coward to be outfront should NEVER be believed for nothing.
The funny part is… a nickname is still kinda secretive. You’d think that would be enough. I used to use my real name until the spammers turned my email in hell mail.
I finally had more than enough so since I’m an artist, I decided to create a cartoon based on illegal immigration. How would I go about submitting it for possible use on this sight?
DOMINEAUX , I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU,BUT, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT FOR SOME PEOPLE , BEING ABLE TO SAY WHAT THEY WANT WITHOUT DIVULGING THEIR IDE