1. The number of illegal immigrants estimated to be here are from 12-24+ mil!
2. 5+ million cheat the government out of over $35 Billion a year in income taxes.
3. At the same time they receive $30 Billion a year in government benefits!
4. 96% of increased enrollment in public schools is due to immigration. Parents of those students contribute little or nothing in taxes to support education!
5. 2002 – American Hospital Assoc. paid $21 Billion in uncompensated healthcare..this does not include Government and private clinics costs. US Census Bureau 2003 report; 30.6% Hispanics vs. 9% other received means tested government benefits (welfare, healthcare, food stamps).
7. These 30.6% contributed NOTHING to the government while receiving benefits.
8. Taxpayers pay $12 Billion annually for illegal’s education. Add children born here to illegal parents = $28.6 Billion.
9. Providing dual language programs represents additional expense Of $290-$879 PER pupil PLUS free meals/books for illegal children in our classrooms.
10. 270,000 = number of illegal aliens spending time in our jails in 2003. 1 in 5 in our prison population are illegal aliens convicted of a felony AFTER entering our county illegally.
11. Illegal aliens displace approximately 730,000 American workers every year!
12. $20 BILLION in remittances sent back to Mexico last year! That’s a lot of $ taken out of our Economy to be sent home to their own!
FOR MORE FACTS & INFORMATON: Coalition Against Illegal Immigration, alipac and fairus
My thoughts and feelings on Illegal immigration run very very deep. My Grand father was shot and killed by an illegal immigrant over an argument about a damn PARKING SPACE. Even though there were witnesses he got away and people are too aftraid to say something out of fear of retaliation. See where in live in Washington state, these illegals run in groups and harass everyday citizens and nothing is done about it. Im so pissed at my country for letting them run rampant and do what they please as if they own this country. Im no racist at all but im so fed up with this. If our government dont do something about this problem, im sure regular citizens are going to take up arms and start taking these damn, aggressive, spanish-speaking, loud music playing, illegals and run them the hell outta here. WHERE the hell is my justice. Ive lived here my whole life, paid taxes, and work an honest 8 hour day. Tell me, where is my justice. My grandfather is dead cold in the ground and this illegal is running free to cause more problems. I swear they are a cancer to our country.
Nancy, you and the rest of the illegal scum need to leave this country now! Our soldiers did NOT fight for yoyur freedom to come to this country and live off of the taxpeayers! Get out now!!
what a bunch of ignorant racists
So you should be leaving also, you are an immigrant. Our history goes into detail on how we were once the immigrants and took over this land. Think before you speak.
Every word you say is the Gospel,but I find that,aside from myself and you,that most Americans are COWARDS.Especially the young ones who have never been in a fistfight in their lives,they just bumble along and allow gangs of Mexes,Crips and Bloods intimidate them,steal the White woman etc.
It is simple Americans have to shut it down..YESTERDAY.
CHAS. TANNER ………..YOU SIR , .. ARE A REAL USA PATRIOT ……..
Sorry bout your Grand father . … he is on a list of approx. 12 -24 Americans per day,….WHO DIE AT THE HANDS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS… IN USA
JAN THE MAN …NAPPY-GUANO …. DHS leade maggolt .. Says. All Is Well.
dont believe em’ .. USA IS UNDER MASSIVE, ORCHESTRATED INVASION
please learn how to spell first & another thing you cant be talking because whatever race you are black white whatever they commit the same crimes & you know what they are running around free doing more bad to this country. So please think before you even speak.
mexicans are not a cancer in this counry they do the work you don’t want to do and they don’t take you jobs they come to work in this country you people are just to lazy to get you @ss up and work that is bull sh1t.america with out a mexican would be nothing who would pick there orchsrda and field we pick the food you eat and make the clothes you were you depend on us .
nancy salas
brown proud
Nancy, you are a retard. Plain and simple. Please learn how to spell . Mexicans are too lazy and stupid too get off of their asses to change their country. Instead you ruin ours, and then talk crap about to us . Again you are a retard. Yes, Mexicans do take jobs away from us, and you take much more than just that. I don’t know why you people even push us, didn’t we kick your asses once, took over your country and then sold back to you the part we didn’t want . Yes , we did. Finally , if mexicans weren’t here pickin our orchsrda and making the clothes we were ….hmmm, pretty sure we can handle that just like we have handled everything else in the history of our country. People like you, are why people like me , don’t like your people . Hope you can comprende that . Retard. God Bless…lol
J. Hell. You are so incredibly ignorant that it is ridiculous. You love your country so much yet you do not know the basic history of it. Classic. We did not go to war with Mexico and win the country and give some back. It was the annexation of Texas under John Tyler’s presidency. One battle. Not a war. And I’m willing to bet you don’t even know what the one battle is called. Your also thinking of the Spanish-American War which was with SPAIN! God your smart. So ignorant while you sit and get fat and misinterpret history. Take a stand for your country when you know something about it you dumb racist nazi. And I’m not an immigrant!
So Nancy…you have the rotten attitude….chip on your shoulder….and you think we owe you and we need you…..ROTFL You know nothing about me or my fellow Americans…..how dare you call us lazy! I am tired of supporting your lazy asses all they are good for is spitting out babies. Why don’t you stay in your country….fight and die for it as we the Americans have done for our country. AND we haven’t fought and died for our country to have millions of Hispanics freeloading and demanding that they have rights here too….you have no rights here…..we don’t want you here…..we pay for your food and clothing….your medical expenses and your education and frankly we are sick of it! And we can see how grateful you are to the American people by your comments. Beleieve me our orchsdra whatever the hell that is……will be picked without you…..do you think America ran around naked until the Mexicans came…..give me a break……go back where you came from…..we will survive and don’t ever bite the hand that feeds you bitch.
freak of nature
I’m sure if you’re not here, we would hire Americans and we would not have unemployment and homeless people in the streets. When I came to this country in 1974 I didnt’ see homeless American. I’m not saying only Mexicans are the problem, they come from every country around the world
Nancy, I am not going to agrue with you that they work hard, many mexicans I know are really hard working, but the thing is….America is the land of opportunity, my parents came here to give me that…they value education and so here I am well educated with a great job, paying a bunch of taxes. Its a cultural difference in the way that illigals from mexico do not value education and continue to have kids that they have no means of paying for thier education and so the cicle of poverty continues….unlike all other immigrants that come into this country….Mexicans tend to stay at the same level, asain overflow out higher education system and are quite good at school and guess what many fled poverty and discrimination for opportunity and guess what …THEY ARE ACTUALLY TAKING IT…I’ve worked in underprivilaged schools and guess what, mexicans had the lowest college attendance rating, while viatnames, chinese, korean, russian, thias all went to college even though they were immigrants, did not have educated parents, grew up in the same neighborhoods, were in poverty and went to the same shitty schools.
Why do you think your people are needed where they are not wanted and are breaking our laws. This country became great because of the people who made it florish before the spike in illegal mexican criminal invasion. The downfall of this country has been directly related to the wetback surge. If your people are needed, why not help mexico? You are the problem you are running from.
i know of plenty of white boys that would love to have the jobs that illegal mexicans take from them
Then take them,what are they waiting for..do it.Send the Mexes packing.
nancy. I apologize but your kind is worthless. Stupid smelly wetbacks think that they can just come over here and destroy our peace and overide our country.
White Power.
nancy you are just a dumb bitch. i would love to have one of the jobs that illegals take from me
Nancy, You are so damned stupid ! How long have you been sleeping with the illegal scum ? Let me tell you something. Long Before that Mexican scum came to this country, white americans were working their #@!es off ! You got that ! I worked in tobacco fields long before they did. I worked in the factories long before they did. They come here for one reason and one reason only ! That is the free ride. And let me tell you . Americans are getting $#@! sick and tired of keeping your lazy @#!es up ! There is GOING TO BE A REVOLUTION AND SOON. You will know what a good old fashioned as@ beating is ! We whipped you once and by God we will do it again. GET OUT OF THIS COUNTRY ! now you can go in one piece of we can send you back in pieces. GET OUT !
Nancy scum bag is going to get an ass whipping.
Ummmmm, Let me guess, you’re a Mexican, LOL. The fact that mexicans do jobs that Americans wont do is nothing other than IGNORANT. Mexicans work in restaraunts, kitchens, they work as chefs, waiters, and within the entire consturction industry. Why you may ask? Because they will work for penneys on the dollar. It is not helping out economy, it is hindering it as the only people to make money are the corporate officianados. nancy you are ignorant and speaking with emotion and not logic. “America without Mexicans would be nothing”, Seriously, LOL are you fucking kidding me? I have been FORCED to work with illegals and to be honest with you, all they did is talk shit about this country, not showing even a tiny bit of respect for the English language. One “gentlemen” i worked with lost his job making $12.00 per hour (a wage other Americans would JUMP at) and got arrested for raping a young girl. Apparently he was out on bail for years because he was undocumented and now he is in prison; forced to serve a longer term becasue he stabbed soemone in the joint. Get the fuck out of here with your ignorant voice, it does not want to be heard by me or other Americans!!
Nancy Salas, you are not informed. I am a U.S.M.C. veteran. I did not go over seas the few times I did for people like you. Life, Liberty and the pursuit off ALL who threaten it. Carl Evans, retired and still working sixty hours a week. Semper, fi
of course, most Mexicans illegal and legal think they are the cat’s meow…you gave a great example yourself: for some reason that makes me laugh is that you seem to think the U.S. would be nothing without you…well…you must not have any inkling that the U.S. has existed long before these laborers of the worst quality(Mexicans) drove out other workers only because they are cheap(certainly not worth a penny more). And if the Mexicans were really that hard working and smart, I wonder why they can’t get their own government to work like a remotely decent free country would. And don’t forget, my dear brown and proud friend, you may want to believe that you are too important to the food supply of the U.S. the scientists who are working on harvesting, planting robots certainly would want to prove you wrong….my advice: learn how to spell better and start learning some skills that won’t be replaced in a jiffy in today’s world.
jobs in mexico you were too lazy to do for lower money so we are not lazy and you are not more important than our vets; 54% on welfare so we could not get away with working and welfare and stealing identities, no taxes lead you to jail; not racist but you destroy christmas, easter, and ,kids are suspended for USA clothing – you all should be deported
call congress to fightt -you feel we owe you something – free meds., schools, not allowed in Mex. borders closed everywhere…
The “brown proud” response is ignorant but classic. Let’s make sure our brown friends understand a few irrefutable realities. #1, if you’re in the country illegally, that is without our permission, you are “entitled” to nothing. Just because one works does not mean instant entitlement. End of story. Secondly, if your true intent is to come here to work, then just come here to work, make your money and then head back home where you belong. That means not coming here to dump liters of offspring into our taxpayer financed public schools and further diluting the gene pool. My daughters were born and raised here yet speak better Spanish than most Mexicans. Also keep in mind that if every Mexican was gone tomorrow, there are 10 times as many from other countries who would fill your spot in a heartbeat. Unskilled labor from outside the USA is “dime a dozen”. Most of these idiot wetbacks don’t have a clue when it comes to Economics 1A and supply & demand. It’s a buyers market for the USA which means we win and you lose. End of story.
If Mexicans were such wonderful workers verses the “lazy” Americans, why is it that the “lazy Americans” built a country that Mexicans could not create if their lives depended on it? Mexico is a joke which is why people flee from there to come to the “promised land” built by Americans. Additionally, if Mexicans overall were such wonderful workers, why are there more illegal Mexicans in our prisons than all other illegals combined? Opps. I guess that is just an “inconvenient fact” for wishful thinking, unskilled, uneducated Mexicans attempting to justify their law breaking ways. Funny how facts get in the way of baseless arguments. Facts talk and Bushit walks.
The end is near and our brown friends know it. Consequently, they start to make desperate and ridiculous arguments which does not pass the sniff test and is beyond the pale of logic. Call it wetback logic.
I don’t see any WHITE GANGS OR VIGILANTES? When I was young,the White Guys like me kicked ass.NoW LOOK AT IT!
Thanks Fred for telling it how it is.
In response to Ms. Salas: I don’t believe that anyone is saying that Mexicans are a cancer to society. The point that so many of us are trying to make is that illegal immigrants ARE a cancer to the United States economy. Simply stated, WE CAN’T AFFORD TO TAKE CARE OF OUR FAMILIES AS WELL AS THOSE OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS. For many of us it is not about race, it is about common sense. It is my understanding that Mexico is a very wealthy county rich in it’s production of gold, silver and ore. And what about the workers that are imported to Mexico from other countries to do the jobs that “hard working” Mexican Citizens won’t do (please read up on your facts)? Are we to assume that they will do the work that “lazy Mexicans” won’t do (fair is fair, correct?)?
Ms Salas, what if the tables were turned. What if I and my family moved to Mexico and let’s say at a town meeting, informed all Mexican citizens that from this point on, I will need (from your government) a job, a home, healthcare, welfare, food stamps, daycare, certain government grants (because I’m American, of course) and schools for my children that cater to their native language. By the way…. thousands of my closest relatives, friends and neighbors will be moving to Mexico shortly and will be needing the same accommodations. Ms. Salas, I ask you: does that make any sense to you? Oh…. I forgot, when I buy my house with government grants from Mexico, I will proudly display the American Flag in the front yard. If you don’t like it, too bad.
One argument that is consistently made by supporters of illegal immigration is that Mexican’s actually add to this economy by doing work American’s won’t do. I don’t doubt that many (maybe even most) Hispanics are hard working, intelligent individuals. However, if that is the case, why not use those attributes to make your own country a great place to live? Why not take that intelligence and “can do” attitude and use them to clean up your own back yard? I would assume the answer to that question is one of two options: either you can’t or you won’t. Could you please explain, in detail what the answer is and why?
Kindest Regards,
I could easily go on for an hour about why illegals and our government are ruining this country,but why should I when only I only need one reason?
They are criminals,every last one of them,and yes,it’s as simple as that.It does not matter why they broke our law,how hard they work,what intentions they have.Still the bottom line is they did and do break our laws.If they had any respect for this country at all,they would get in line and migrate legally.
The fact is they do not respect or country,but they do believe that half of teh US is actually theirs by right.They want to section off a huge portion for themsleves and ignore all of the US stands for by making their own laws and culture and not to embrace ours.
Howsabout 30 million legal Americans all rob banks and march in the streets and demand everything we want as well.Do you think Bush would give us pardons?I mean afterall it would be the first time we broke the law,and we only did it to get our families things we wanted for them right?After that we will promise to never break the law again if you could just ignore this one time,for now anyway.
Illegal immigration is absolutley NO DIFFERENT.We are a country of laws and laws must be upheld.If not anarchy and civil war reign and when this day comes I for one will be waiting on my property locked and loaded.
In closing.A vast majority of our government are basically just modern day mobsters looking for more power and money and illegals will help them in that everquest.
When all of these illegals do gain a free meal ticket on the backs of US citizens and they become citizens themselves,I wonder how they will feel when what they are doing comes back to them in the same form someday in the future after we rename America to Mexica.
Maybe the city in which they live will go down the tubes because of overpopulation of land and schools and no one paying taxes.Perhaps they will lose their job because theres just not enough prosperity to go around and the economy is not flourishing.Maybe there will be no healthcare in the area because of all of the hospitals went bankrupt.When all of freebies the system provides are gone then what?Maybe someone will even steal from you,hurt you ar a loved one.
What about when your local laws are broken,your heritage stomped allover right in front of you,or watch your government ignore the very overwhelming plea of the people.Oh wait,maybe this will not be too much of a shock,this is hows things already are in Mexico.Hmmm,wonder why that is?
At some point in time they will realize our government is corrupt and in some way shape or form,we are all just slaves.
One other comment to toss in here.Illegals and pro-illegals idiots know in their heart they have absolutley no arguement or credible reasoning to back any of their BS.This is exacty why they always end up throwing down the race charge.If they do,you have already won the debate.They do not want to admit the facts about how bad illegals hurt our country because they know it paints a horrific picture.
The stats of cost and impact are staggering and there is no greater threat facing Americans today.Our lazy corrupt government will NOT do ANYTHING so please help to save our country before its too late.
Get out,Get Active,Vote for Reform and the Correct Officials,,and Spread the Word.
http://www.Minuteman Project.com
Grassfire.org
Why doesn’t Nancy Salas answer again? Logic getting in the way? If an American citizen goes to Mexico you would find that their laws are much more strict than those in the USA. Bush calls the Minuteman volunteers vigilantees, yet the service they are providing are the same as a Neighborhood Watch group which is lauded in all communities where they are organized. The USA has the obligation to enforce it’s laws on immigration and it’s borders. Just because someone is here illegally and is working does not give them the right to break the laws of the USA by coming here illegally. Nancy, why don’t you address the questions and issues? I would think that any hispanic citizen of the USA who went through the immigration process legally would be resentful of those who break our laws by coming here illegally. I think the USA should fine employers who hire illegals $10,000 per illegal per day. I think landlords should be fined $5,000 per illegal they rent to each month. Then if illegal aliens couldn’t find work or a place to rent they might go use their good work ethic to make Mexico a place where they would be proud of and a thriving economy. Of course first they would have to rebel against all the corruption that makes it impossible now in their country of origin.
This is a little known fact…just one of those little old things you learn from experience.
30 years ago I owned a construction company in Dallas,Texas. Almost all the work we contracted was in cites and towns in South Texas (close to Mexico), San Antonio, Austin, San Angelo. All of these towns had large populations of legal Mexicans.
Most of those cities were 4-6 hours drive from Dallas. We paid hotels, mileage and perdiem to all employees. Our contracted prices were approximately three times what local contractors would for the work.
The companies we worked for hired us at outrageous prices, because they could not get local contractors to perform the work competently, and certainly not on time. In fact, they commonly described their situation as, “We’re in manana land”.
All the legal Mexicans in those areas did not want work. The contractors in those “manana land” cities couldn’t get enough people to work, to satisfy reasonable contract requirements.
The Mexican Illegals are now illegal, but I can tell you this… When you take that away they’re into Siesta time. They will take advantage of all entitlement programs just as they did years ago when I experienced their lack of desire to work.
A friend of mine put it this way, ” The sword is on their neck, they’ll work. You take away the sword and you’re going to do well to keep it off your own neck”.
you guys are freakin racists. you may claim you are not but you are. there is no such thing as an “illegal” immigrant. this country is made up of immigrants. have you ever stopped to think about where your ancestors came from? unless you’re native american you CANNOT say your family wasn’t “illegal” at one point. and what you people talkin about when you say “illegals” dont contribute to the economy? they work and every freakin week they get money taken out of their paycheck for taxes. yet at the end they cant even get retirement money because their “illegal”. THEIR THE ONES GETTING SCREWED! they are the real victims, not you.
haha this one is funny too …murillo…hmm i’m noticing a trend on who is pro-illegal… anywho besides racism , the “well all you americans are immigrants too” argument cracks me up …yeah well tchincally anyone that moves more than a few feet a day is immigrating to another place….haha your arguement is so sad and dilute of thought….everyone everywhere came from someone somewhere…duh. thats nature…however present day, they are entering a country “illegally”…we have a country , there are rules, you choose to break them , at least except the criticism lol aside form the filth you bring with you, its just the fact that every illegal disrespects this country from their very first footstep on to it. Plus America has been a country longer than Mexico and we won the land in a fair fight..Besides most Mexicans are of mixed race too. most people are , and that shouldn’t even be an issue…but sadly it is.
our bottom line is your top line . remember that. i do like Don Cheeto though….hilarious
I they are real victim why are they staying? Why they don’t go back to their own country where they would not be victimized? You know that social security card can be bought on the street for $10. Do you know how much they cost us in taxes when they get cancer or life threating disease or how much their kid cost us. Believe me the taxes they pay is a drop in a huge pocket
nice, well actually, many of the immigrants that came to this country came on ships, needed paper work and were invited by America to come (ex: irish potato famine, fall of the soviet union, communist regimes). I was not born in this country, but rather raised here, my parents immigrated properly, with proper paper work, with permission, and have remained law abiding tax paying citizens which knew better than to have dozens of children they can not provide for or educate. Why do all other citizens of other countries have to do things legally, wait their turn, pay fees all to be official. While others can just cross the border and be given the same benefits and not pay taxes…and yes you will now say, mexicans pay taxes…but yes, from the $5 an hour that they do make and after having 5-6 children those taxes dont even cover education for one of them. Why is it that when I go to the ER, I have to pay outragious fees with insurance I must add, while an illigal is deemed private pay and the hospital will never see a dime….except for my payment which will cover my treatment and theirs. There is not punishment for breaking the law and yes…crossing the border without permission is BREAKING THE LAW!!! And other country does not have that kind of mercy, some countries will just shoot you on site (ex: Russia, China) while other will jail you in their “hotel like jails” and send you packing!!
Maria,
Your comments are illogical, first my parents immigrated from Spain, they are not hispanic they are SPANISH. They are collage educated and speak fluent ENGLISH, they applied for citizenship, waited like everyone else and were granted citizenship legally. This means that when they stepped off the plane they were resident aliens for 1 WEEK PRIOR TO BECOMING CITIZENS. The fact is they followed the US immigration law. Illegals pay tax? I hate to disappoint you but 95% do not.. and the one’s that do pay payroll tax not income tax.
Nancy…use a little common sense. When you write things like that it gives you less credibility. Of course there’s a difference. When floods of immigrants came to the US thru Ellis Island this country was in need of craftsman, innovators, soldiers, entrepreneurs, farmers and so forth. The timing was perfect because Europe was in the process of civil unrest because of taxation, crime and all the other social issues that come with densely populated countries. When they came, because America opened it’s doors, they received instant citizenship. Even with the needs of those days, lots of ppl were turned away and send back because of their prior convictions, disease, and so on. Ironically, the Irish and Italians, which where the last of the wave to arrive, were looked down upon by the settlers that had arrived before them. They had to prove themselves before they got respect. It eventually came but very painfully and slowly. The US doesn’t have those needs any longer and as a result no longer grants citizenship at the rate it once did. When ppl enter regardless of that law, it makes them illegal. Because of all the economic and social issues happening to our southern neighbors there is great pressure to get into the US. But that can’t be the problem of the US. The US needs to enforce it’s borders and Mexico needs to respect that. Because we are a rich nation there is an assumption that we can just keep printing it and giving it away to save the rest of the world. We can’t and we are at that very stage right now. Without pointing any fingers and trying to blame anyone, the fact is that the US dollar is seriously devalued, we are attempting a jobless economic recovery, (which has never worked in the history of any civilization), and American morale is very low. We have our own issues to take care of and work together as tax contributing citizens, proud Americans before we can help anyone else. The polls clearly indicate that up to 75% of Americans are anti illegal immigration. Put it in a much smaller context: You make X amount of dollars. You have mouths to feed, but you can only feed your family and you are stretched to the ultimate. Others are insisting you feed and take care of them because you have more than they do. Ask yourself, who’s problem is that? Are they entitled to your food, $$, resources ect…I think you’ll find that at least 75% of your family would vote against helping others.
Maria, you are an idiot ! and you are probably an illegal criminal. If you are in this country and you were not born here with parents that are American YOU ARE A CRIMINAL. AND YES WE ARE RACIST. I used to feel sorry for them. Yes I did. I was even married to one. He was killed by another damned illegal. Who never paid for murdering my husband. Illegal is ILLEGAL you stupid idiot ! What part of illegal do you not understand ?
and furthermore, the native Americans migrated here also. Every damned country in the world has immigrants dumb ass ! STop trying to sugar coat this illegal bullshit ! GET OUT ! or we will be coming after you ! You get this straight. Americans are fed up. BIG TIME. And if the government that we keep up won’t move your asses out , WE WILL !!!
Illegal scum from Mexico is not getting screwed. Hard working Americans are . But we are getting ready to fix that . better be getting ready. you are going to get an ass beating real soon. You short little punks. you are just little thumb tacks that we are going to push right into the wall. Turn the tv on and look at what’s going on in Egypt. That is what is going to happen here REAL SOON. so screw with racists .
Maria, you’re obviously of Hispanic descent. So, try looking at it from a NON biased view.
We are in a different time than when the Irish came in droves. Situation is not the same and without THOSE immigrants ( who weren’t illegal, they were just immigrants ) there would be no AMERICA for YOUR people to retreat to. If you guys are treated SO poorly then why come? Why not stay at home and fix your own country? I mean, you are such hard workers and all. Fix your own backyard. Guess what? Lynching is back in America. It isn’t against blacks . It’s against Mexicans. Especially ones that can’t speak the language and sit around getting piss drunk and robbing the same construction sites at night that they work at during the day.
Quit trying to defend your people. Your people are a drain on our country. We don’t want you here. You are such proud people..go back down south and fix up your own problems.
if telling the truth and calling thing what they are is being “racist”, then, THANK YOU VERY MUCH, I am proud of being a racist. And by the way, this “oh, all our ancestors are immigrants and every one was illegal at some point” BS is just getting so old it’s not even funny….
All that about illegal aliens making less money is a hoot. They work for cash for the most part, and pay no taxes. They don’t want wages with witholding and SS taken out if they can help it. If they make $10 and hour for day labor they’d have to make $16.00 at a wage earning job.
Sure there are big companies that have been able to hire them and drive wages down, but most illegal aliens aren’t stupid enough to work with those companies for long.
They save their money, buy some lawnmowers, tools and a pickup truck. They go in business for themselves, pay no taxes and take out no taxes from their workers.
They live in local homes in large numbers, that’s bad, but that’s still better than living in a cardboard box next to a dump heap in Mexico city. Their own people rent them space in the houses with multi-occupants and are nothing more than slum landlords. Then those slum landlords pay ad-valorm taxes on a single family dwelling. The school taxes are principally funded by federal and local ad-valorem taxes. The burden on local taxpayers is becoming un-payable by middle class Americans (too expensive).
American property owners gets the burden, because teachers and doctors have to get paid.
what the hell do u have against illegals domineaux?!! and why the hell do you assume all illegals are mexican?!
if you’re from anywhere south of Americas border, then you are a Mexican. We don’t give a shit which little, poor country you’re from. You’re all a drain. Come here, do it the right way and join our society. Otherwise f*** off back to your own countries you’re so proud of and make it a better place. Don’t just run here and bring your problems with you.
more than 85% of them are from MEHEEKKO,
and they certainly behave in such way that deserve to be despised.
I’m against any illegal, period. All illegals aren’t Mexicans, but about 90+% are. The Mexicans are the most pervasive and outspoken troublemakers of all illegals in America.
The Mexican illegals are contemptuous. They refuse to learn our language, and despise our culture. It’s stupid, how they embrace their own country, which has abandoned them. They have no future for a decent life in Mexico. They come here and have all the opportunities imaginable and still less than 50% of them graduate high school.
When do you become an American? You never will be, if you are a defender of illegal persons who don’t even belong in this country.
Yeah I agree, Having these illegal mexicans are making america way worse. Also canadians. But yeah mainly mexicans, and I agree that if they dont want to even benifit this country they should be deported. I also agree that they should not even have the right to become a citizen because they are trying to cheat the system. America is not what it used to be so I think it dosent even matter anymore. Besides they are making the fellow citizens of america pay for their schooling and hospilization. I think that is highly unfair and the goverment dosent seem to care. as if these people are making the country a better place. I say if they are not a citizen deport them
you know what? ur slow. unlike you & a whole bunch of many ignorant people, we never forget our culture. people come her and forget everything. they just want to blend in. but they forget where they came from. they pretend to be “Americans” at least us mexicans, we never do that. because our culture is more important than watever you have to say
yeah I love that, look I’m Ukrainian, I speak Ukrainian in my home, with my family…but I do not expect anyone to cater to my language, I know English, Russian and Spanish, because I seek out the education. I have never forgotten my culture, however, am so thankful to this country that has given me opportunities that I would have never had growing up in Ukraine. I do not display my native countries flag because that just rude, I am a US citizen and a salute the American Flag! I speak English because I live in America, I celebrate 4th of July because I am in America, I sing the national anthem because I am in AMERICA! If I were in mexico I would celebrate mexican independence day sept 16th, sing the mexican national anthem and sport the Mexican Flag. Borders are there for a reason and people of all counties should respect that. At least respect the country your in! Be american and be mexican at home, we have the right to do that you know?
Your stupid ass culture is killing your country slut ! and now you want to come here and ruin us ! Where do you live ? You talk mighty damned big in a country that could wipe your ass out !
NO Maria, we were born here we’re Americans. This IS our heritage. Go home. Be proud there since you aren’t proud here.
This hole thing is so contradictory! i am mexican american, (born here) for that matter ma parents and grandparents were born here. my ancesters lived on what is now ‘american land’ if you didnt know before americans MIGRATED here native americans and mexicans lived on these lands. You on the other hand have ancesters from europe most likely, you people are the ones who should go back!!
Culture? really?
You people are simply fighting about something the government can’t figure out how to deal with. Yes, as a proud MEXICAN immigrant, I too, share the burden of being looked at with certain disdain by people who cannot believe I hold a Master’s degree. How dare I, to break that stereotype of the ignorant wetback, right? YOU all are ignorant, because what you don’t realize is that by the year 2012, this country will be inhabited by more people over the age of 55. Yes, you are right, there will be other nationalities to take those jobs in a heart beat! But, can you imagine? bringing in 10 to 15 million people AT ONE TIME? Boy,, you people are seriously retarded! you just open your mouths and think “just get rid of all of them, and let’s bring some more! from other countries! Good luck! I can tell you guys have master’s degrees in Economics!! at least the ones already here have assimilated to the culture and the way of life, and by the way, some even speak English better than some Americans that I have met. When you say they don’t pay taxes, you have been totally misinformed, and by the way, this website is so poisoned with anti-immigrant hatred, you just need to really read a little more and get educated, shame on you for remaining so much in the dark. If all illegal immigrants decided to leave today, tomorrow you WILL WITNESS the collapse of a booming economy. Whether you like to admit it or not, you too, have benefitted from it, the houses being built wouldn’t be affordable to many, but they are, thanks to illegal migrant work. The produce you eat in your salads, is cheaper because some illegal immigrant did the job, your lawns look great! thanks to the illegal immigrant jobs. As a matter of fact, if you know a little Math, you will realize that they actually get the shorter end of the stick!!! However, if you are so determined to get rid of them, you’d better start to get ready for some difficult times ahead and LEARN TO CLEAN, MOW YOUR LAWNS, PICK YOUR PRODUCE, BUILD YOUR HOUSES AND LEARN TO DO IT IN THE WORSE POSSIBLE DEHUMANIZING CONDITIONS, WITH NO BENEFITS, LET’S TRAIN THE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO CURRENTLY DO NOT WORK AND GET WELLFARE. You fail to understand that THAT is a bigger problem!! There is no perfect solution, but a more compasionate and civilized solution should be to continue to be the nation that was historically “the land of the american dream” and let’s participate in a real debate like civilized people that I think are. Yes, they broke the law, but they were able to find jobs, many of them even have married american citizens and live happily everafter, some are entrepeneurs, business owners, etc. YOU JUST WANT TO SEE THE NEGATIVE IN THIS DEBATE AND TOTALLY IGNORE THE REALITY. This country is underpopulated, the United States is a huge country, and like I said before, it will be a nation of old people in a few more years. Many of you didn’t even know what an “illegal alien” was, until perhaps somebody told you and then, it became a big deal! How convenient, we found a new escapegoat! I can’t find a job! it’s all the mexican illegal’s fault! competition is the key in a booming economy. I can go on and on about this, by the way, Mexico is a very beautiful country, but the problem is, the politician’s pockets are extremely deep, people don’t want to wait a lifetime to build their american dream, these people want to come here legally, but the system that is currently in place, does not allow for easy entry into the U.S. legally, that is why!!!! and it’s not cheap to get here either! these people have paid up to 3000 dls. to get here! but the U.S. doesn’t currently have a system in place for semi-skilled or unskilled workers, duh!? do you think anyone wants to pay that much and run the risk of getting caught and losing your money? You owe it to yourselves to go beyond the surface of this issue, all of us human beings have the same desires and needs. Theirs are no different!
Teresa, I’m glad you were educated with our tax money and I’m sure your master will be needed in Mexico very much. I’m sure they will benefit from your wisdom. If every one get a free education like you and move back to their country to contribute to its growth, that would be great
You stupid slut ! that degree that you hold , American tax payers paid for ! I was working in the tobacco fields LONG BEFORE you came here witch !!!
I mow my own yard, I pick my own vegetables, I scrub my own toilet, so don’t you dare CALL ME LAZy!!!!!
This country IS NOT underpopulated slut . You illegals are making sure of that . You baby factories are making sure of that . And all of them are on welfare. And let me tell you something else. White women are getting tired of YOUR husbands and YOUR boyfriends flirting with us. WE are not the sluts you are .
TERESA,REMEMBER WHEN WE HAD A ” DAY WITHOUT MEXICANS?” THE ILLEGALS WERE GOING TO BRING AMERICA TO ITS KNEES!”DIDN’T HAPPEN!!!” WE DIDN’T EVEN MISS THEM. IT WAS GREAT GOING DOWN THE ROAD WITHOUT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT AN ILLEGAL RUNNING OVER YOU AND THEN FLEEING THE SCENE. YOU SOUND LIKE A PERSON WHO IS FULL OF HATE FOR AMERICA.SO WHY DON’T YOU DO YOURSELF AND THE CITIZENS OF OUR COUNTRY A FAVOR AND GO BACK TO THAT WONDERFUL THIRD WORLD COUNTRY OF YOURS.BY THE WAY , I AM SO HAPPY THAT YOU HAVE A MASTERS DEGREE.TOO BAD IT DIDN’T MAKE YOU ANY SMARTER. WE ARE A NATION OF LAWS,AND SINCE YOU DON’T SEEM TO WANT TO RESPECT ANY OF THEM TERESA WHY DON’T YOU AND YOUR FRIENDS JUST GO AWAY,YOU ARE ALL MORE TROUBLE THAN YOU ARE WORTH. WE HONESTLY DO NOT NEED YOU HERE.
All I know is that regardless of what all of you racists say, the Latino population is growing and growing and will soon be the majority in this country. Statistics show that around 2020 the latino population will be outnumbering the white population so I say you better get used to it! Latinos play a fundamental part in our society no matter what anyone says. It is said that there are many jobs out there that are “Taken from U.S citizens” but that is all crap. Dont tell me that you are so upset because the dishwasher job has been taken at a local restaurant and now you cant work there…its so heartbreaking that now you will have to say sorry to your kids because they will never be able to be a landscaper, or a maid !!!! GIVE ME A BREAK! oh, and here is another point when im out driving who do i see begging for money on the side of the street???? Well its an ANGLO citizen oh my gosh!!! who is lazy now? I dont think I ever see a Mexican begging for money, but I do see a Mexican begging for a job. So when you say that Mexicans are lazy think again Idiots!!! 96% of Illegal men are employed in the U.S and many work more than one job. Illegal immigrants also pay taxes if you do some research, you can see that the majority of these immigrants pay income taxes using individual taxpayer Identification numbers or fake socials. Immigrants are not draining the welfare system either, because many of them are not even eligible to receive the majority of these services!! so I would say that the drain is coming from your own lazy unemployed citizens who wouldnt dare take up a landscaping job.
Well here’s another Mexican slut running off at the mouth. Why do we see whites begging on the streets ? well it’s because our government that OUR parents and our grandparents and our great grand parents worked for and faught for is giving our country away to sluts like yourself. Whitey can’t get any help because of the baby factories from GOOD OLE MEXICO.
You are going , better get used to it. Your babies will all die from HIV virus. just wait and see. the way you people screw around. Yep , you will be gone soon.
hey move to Houston..you’ll see plenty of begging Mexicans that can’t speak the language. So don’t try and say it’s only white people that are homeless. Also, read up on the statistics regarding DUI’s in Houston. Especially hit and run incidents. Cunt.
yes, growing and growing and growing, like the rat population in NYC. Pretty soon your people will have to figure out a way to educate, cloth, house all of your little rats without the federal government’s goodies, I hope, as what used to be the support for citizens of this country would have been sucked dry by you shameless Latino anchor babies. Good bloody luck to you…
Teresa
You said a mouthful. First you told us you had a Masters…That’s B.S.
You wrote your entire long-winded abuse in one paragraph. No one with a masters would be that ignorant.
An illegal alien is somone that entered this country illegally. It’s just that simple; illegal persons have just invaded America. The Mexicans beloved country is driving them out, by starving them and not providing any potential for a decent life.
It is ignorant to hear all the Mexican patriots shouting their love for a country that has completely abandoned them. How can anyone shout the praises of such an apathetic country.
Adriana
You told all us dumb Americans how your people are going to take over America. Sad to say, you could be right.
Our govenment representatives no longer represent our people. We elect them based on their coventants to represent us, their constituents. The tyrannical jerks go to Washington and sell us out.
Actually, we aren’t far from the same kind of govenment of King George of England. Yes, the tyrant King George received our country’s rebuke in the Declaration of Independence.
I’m wondering when the newsmedia will just put the cards on the table and say it like it is. Afterall, the newsmedia just can’t keep saying the Congress is “not in touch with the people”. Our Congress is making and upholding policies framed against our countrymen. This is tyranny.
When an illegal alien goes to the Hospital and pays nothing is that illegal aware that 3 days in the Hospital for simple checkups costs Americans in excess of $10,000? Health care costs are exorbitant and illegals don’t pay, Americans do pay or they get their credit ruined and are sued in the courts.
Forty five million Americans do not have health care insurance now. American citizens put off going to doctors and hospitals, because they know they have to pay and they don’t have the money to pay.
Illegal aliens pay nothing, and aren’t even challenged to pay for their health care. Something is definitely wrong with that.
Is it right or fair that Americans should pay and people that don’t even belong here do not pay?
The playing field is more level for dental care, because no one gets free dental care…regardless of their financial or citizenship status.
If American business wants to hire illegal aliens, the companies should be compelled by law to provide medical benefits. These companies should also be required to pay local goverments a tax to offset, lack of funds for education, and community services. If this were indeed the case, we wouldn’t have illegal aliens.
HEY ADRIANA, I GUESS IN 2020 WE’LL BE UP TO OUR ASSES IN MEXICAN DISHWASHERS AND LITTLE BROWN TURDS MOWING OUR LAWNS.IS’NT THAT GREAT?OH,BY THE WAY, DID YOU HAPPEN TO SEE THE NEWS WHERE 170 MEXICAN TEACHERS ARE BEING SHIPPED INTO TEXAS TO TRY TO TEACH ILLEGAL STUDENTS HOW TO READ AND WRITE THEIR OWN DAMN LANGUAGE? ADRIANA,IN ALL SERIOUSNESS,YOUR COUNTRYMEN AND COUNTRYWOMEN ARE JUST TOO DUMB TO TAKE OVER AMERICA.THEY MAY TAKE UP A LOT OF SPACE HONEY,BUT THEN AGAIN SO DOES DOGSHIT! GET A GRIP YOU MORON!!! IF MEXICANS ARE SO GREAT AT EVERYTHING,THEN WHY IS YOUR OWN COUNTRY SUCH A FRIGGIN DISASTER?MEXICO COULD BE AS WEALTHY AS THE UNITED STATES IF IT WEREN’T FOR THE FACT THAT YOUR GOVERNMENT IS SO CORRUPT AND ITS CITIZENS ARE SO DAMN STUPID.HELL,IF YOU CAN’T EVEN TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT,HOW IN BLUE BLAZES ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE OVER OURS? FYI–THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS DO NOT WANT YOU HERE,AND WE WILL GET RID OF YOU DESPITE THE EFFORTS OF BIG BUSINESS AND EL PRESEDENTE BUSH.TRUST ME ON THIS ONE. WE DO NOT WANT THE DISEASES YOU MEXICANS ARE BRINGING INTO OUR COUNTRY.WE DO NOT WANT YOUR GANGS,CRIME,LOWRIDERS,YOUR LANGUAGE,YOUR STINKING FLAG,YOUR MADONNA ON ALL YOUR BUSINESS WINDOWS,OR YOUR DRUGS. WHATS REALLY FUNNY ,IS THAT I HAVE SOME LEGAL MEXICAN FRIENDS IN SAN ANTONIO WHO CAN’T STAND YOUR ILLEGAL ASSES EITHER.HOW DARE YOU COME INTO OUR COUNTRY UNINVITED AND START SCREAMING FOR YOUR RIGHTS WHEN IN FACT YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS AT ALL IN AMERICA.I GUESS THE ONLY RIGHT YOU DO HAVE HERE,IS THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT,WHICH I AM SURE YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD BEFORE. PLEASE RESPOND ADRIANA AND TELL ME WHY MEXICANS CAN’T MAKE THEIR OWN COUNTRY WORK,I WOULD BE SO EMBARRASSED IF I WERE YOU.ALL YOUR PEOPLE ARE IS A BUNCH OF LOW LIFE LAWBREAKERS,AND THE SORRY AMERICANS WHO HIRE YOU ARE NO BETTER. YOUR DAYS ARE NUMBERED SWEETHEART ,WE’LL BE GETTING RID OF YA’LL SOON. KEEP DAYDREAMING
WELL SAID JERRY , WELL SAID, THEY ARE TOO DAMNED STUPID TO TAKE OVER THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT SO HOW ARE THEY GOING TO TAKE OVER OURS. THE LITTLE SHORTIES . THEY BETTER GET SOME HEIGHT TO THEM OR WE CAN JUST TAKE OUR THUMBS AND PUSH THOSE LITTLE THUMB TACKS INTO THE WALL.
Jerry
Funny, funny, funny, outrageous…but still funny.
You said one sensible thing, as a response to Adrianna…IF YOU CAN’T EVEN TAKE CONTROL OF YOUR OWN GOVERNMENT,HOW IN BLUE BLAZES ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE OVER OURS?
You must have a very old computer…ALL CAPS.
Domineaux, are you jealous of the fact that he told it like it was or are you a illegal lover too ? and by the way, this is still a free country, he can type however the hell he wants ?
OMG!! first of all Jerry I can’t stand you! you have got to be the most ignorant person ever. You just can’t accept the fact that the latino population is growing and one day will be greater than yours. oh and by the way you can tell the idiots you call friends they are retarded. they are so freakin stupid just because they are here legally doesnt make them any better than the ones that arent. they are a disgrace to the latino population.
NO dummy, AIDS is going to kill all your illegal friends.
HEY DOMINEAUX,THANKS FOR THE COMPLIMENT,I THINK. ACTUALLY I THOUGHT I MADE A COUPLE OF SENSIBLE POINTS TO ADRIANA .EVEN THOUGH SOME OF IT WAS TONGUE IN CHEEK . AS FAR AS MY COMPUTER GOES,IT IS NOT THAT OLD,I’M JUST TOO DAMN LAZY TO TAKE CAPS OFF. TAKE CARE
WELL BOO HOO SHOE,YOU MENTAL MIDGET. HOW AM I GOING TO MAKE IT THROUGH THE NIGHT WITH THE THOUGHT OF YOU NOT LIKING ME ?ALL I SEE FROM YOUR LETTER IS THE FRANTIC RANTINGS OF AN ILLEGAL SYMPATHIZER.IF YOU THINK IN FACT THAT I AM IGNORANT,THEN PLEASE TELL ME WHERE I’M WRONG.LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT,IF MY AMERICAN FRIENDS OF MEXICAN DESCENT ARE HERE LEGALLY ,THEN THEY ARE RETARDED ,RIGHT SHOE? YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK SHOE…….I REALLY, REALLY ,I MEAN REALLY THINK THAT YOU HAVE YOUR HEAD CRAMMED UP YOUR BUTT SO FAR THAT YOU’RE EATING YESTERDAYS LUNCH!!! NOW,THE NEXT TIME YOU RESPOND TO ME,STOP SOUNDING LIKE A LITTLE SCHOOL GIRL!
look Jerry. I never said that your friends are ‘retarded’ for being legal. I said they are a disgrace because they pretent to be people they are not. Just because they live in the U.S doesn’t make them ‘white’ or ‘American’ yet they think they are. I just wish I could see your face when the U.S government grants the 12+ million ‘illigals’ ,as you like to call them, citizenship because guess what? Its going to happen.
HUH ? They ain’t legal yet are they ? now go back and screw your illegal slut so you can get aids too . one less idiot left to have to keep up.
i just have to say, illegal immigrants are ruinning our country in front of us. We can’t do anything because,if we say something our government labels it as “discrimination”. There taking our jobs take our money from the economy and worse of all they never pay shit for taxes. I work alot and make decent amount of money, but when i hear that my tax money goes to pay for illegal students that pisses me off!
alex i completely agree with you. mexicans are ruining our country.
i agree with you to they suck
billions of dollars are being spent on illegal immigrants and we need to do something to stop that
you guys are right. we gotta do something to stop all this discrimination against Mexicans. they rock!
JIMMY shoe can’t get an American lover, he had to go get an illegal.
RACISTS!!!
All the name calling and personal attacks is verbal goolash.
It means nothing. There are real issues with illegal immigrants in America. The kind of issues that will have far ranging effects on our nation’s sovereignty and lifestyle.
The liberals are really going to take a licking. One good example, is abortion. The effect of the current illegals population influence in America will grow to to 100,000,000 persons within the next twenty years. The illegal Mexicans are Catholic, and the Catholic church advocates large families as the wealth of the people
The large number of Catholics will listen to the Priests and Bishops, etc. Those Mexican Americans, that’s what they’ll be in twenty years, will vote against abortion. The Catholic influence on America will be more significant than it has ever been in the history of this country.
The liberals whine about the Evangelicals, wait until they have to deal with the Pope and his boys. The liberals will be dealing with a tree that doesn’t bend.
HEY SHOE,AS USUAL YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.MY AMERICAN FRIENDS OF MEXICAN DESCENT ARE JUST THAT,THEY ARE AMERICANS FIRST.CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF BEING AN AMERICAN IN AMERICA ,OR DO YOU JUST HATE AMERICA SO MUCH THAT YOU WANT TO SEE IT EVOLVE INTO A THIRD WORLD CRAP HOLE LIKE MEXICO? JUST WHAT IN THE HELL MAKES YOU ALL GIGGLY ABOUT ILLEGALS TRYING TO TAKE OVER OUR COUNTRY? MAYBE IT’S JUST WHITES THAT YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH. IT’S NOT A WHITE/ILLEGAL ISSUE WE’RE FACING IN AMERICA,IT’S AN AMERICAN/ILLEGAL ISSUE.WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT,THE SIMPLE FACT IS THAT ILLEGALS ARE KILLING OUR COUNTRY.WE ARE SPENDING BILLIONS OF AMERICAN TAXPAYER DOLLARS ON A BUNCH OF INVADERS,MOSTLY MEXICAN,WHO HAVE NO ALLEGIANCE TO OUR COUNTRY,NOR EVER WILL. YOU’RE RIGHT ABOUT ONE THING SHOE,MY FRIENDS WILL NEVER BE “WHITE” AS YOU PUT IT,BUT,THEY SURE AS HELL ARE AMERICAN AS ANY AMERICAN IN THE GOOD OLD UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.SO TELL ME SHOE,IS IT AMERICA THAT YOU DESPISE SO MUCH OR JUST WHITE PEOPLE? AND YOU’RE DAMNED RIGHT I CALL THEM ILLEGAL,BECAUSE THATS EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE.PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME SHOE,WHAT WOULD CALL THEM? I THINK I’M GOING TO START CALLING YOU LEFT SHOE,BECAUSE YOU DEFINITELY SOUND LIKE A LIBERAL TO ME.——ALSO TO ” ME SAID” WELL STATED DIP SHIT! DOMINEAUX,YOU’RE RIGHT ON.BY THE WAY ,THE CATHOLIC CHURCH NEEDS TO HAVE ITS TAX EXEMPT STATUS TAKEN AWAY AND YOU’LL SEE THEM RUN AWAY FROM THE ILLEGAL ISSUE LIKE RATS OFF A SINKING SHIP! AND LASTLY, TO ALL RIGHT THINKING AMERICANS,OUR COUNTRY HAS NEVER SEEN AN INVASION LIKE THE ONE WE ARE EXPERIENCING NOW.WE HAD BETTER GET OUR ACT TOGETHER, OR OUR COUNTRY AS WE KNOW IT WILL BE LOST. DON’T WORRY ABOUT THE SHRILL SCREAMS OF “RACISTS” LIKE THAT DUMB ASS “ME SAID”. THAT’S ALL THEY HAVE.THEY ARE COMPLETELY VOID OF ANY FACTS TO BACK UP THE STUPID CLAIMS THEY MAKE,SO THEY YELL RACIST TO MAKE US COWER.OUR COUNTRY IS MUCH LIKE A PRESSURE COOKER RIGHT NOW,IF THE TENSION ISN’T RELIEVED PRETTY SOON,THERE WILL BE AN EXPLOSION,AND I GUARANTEE YOU ILLEGALS AND ILLEGAL SYMPATHIZERS THAT WHEN ALL THE SMOKE CLEARS,YOU WILL HAVE LOST.AND AMERICA WILL BE AMERICA AGAIN. JUST BECAUSE MOST OF OUR POLITICIANS ARE WEAK KNEED SLAVES TO BIG BUSINESS AND VOTE WHORES TO THE LATINO COMMUNITY,DON’T MAKE THE MISTAKE OF THINKING THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS WON’T DEFEND OUR COUNTRY WITHIN OUR OWN BORDERS.
Man, I hate illegal immigrants. Go back to your own country and stop stinking ours up. Fucking assholes
what are other good websites to find out about immigration and its effects? I’m writing a research paper about how I think immigration is corrupting the US. I wanted to be specific with either Mexican immigrants or Cuban immigrants. Ideas???
by the way, you guys are mean on here!
Debating never works when you only insult the opposite argument. Be nice, Mexicans are people too. buut…they should just go be people in their own country
When one of your female relatives gets raped by one with an STD like what happened in my family, you will wind up being mean too ! People it’s time to wake up ! I used to like them too, but by letting them come into this country illegally, and rewarding them for bad behavior, you are just turning them into Frankensteins. These people have NO heart. They are like badly spoiled children. 30 years ago when they arrived, they came , they did the work, they kept their mouths shut, and they didn’t bother anyone. Now, just like a spoiled child, they think every one and every thing owes them !
That’s what Americans are pissed off about. These people NEVER say thank you. its just gimme gimme gimme. that’s what we racists are pissed at. My tax dollars just can’t keep them up any more. Oh and by the way, I looked up the population in this country, and we Whites STILL out number you so you might do well to remember that . and when the welfare runs out, YOU NEED NOT THINK THE BLACKS ARE GOING TO KEEP YOU UP. They can’t even keep up themselves. The only ones that deserve anything are the Native Americans and they get treated worse than anyone.
HI KtB,SORRY THAT YOU THINK WE’RE MEAN PEOPLE,BUT IT JUST DOESN’T WORK FOR ME TO TRY TO BE NICE TO A CLOSE MINDED LIBERAL WHOSE ONLY RATIONALE ON ANY SUBJECT IS COMPLETELY VOID OF FACT WHATSOEVER. ALL THEY WANT TO DO IS GET TOUCHY FEELY WITH YOU, AND THAT REALLY MAKES ME UNEASY TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM. WHY DON’T YOU TRY GOING TO YOUR LOCAL AIRPORT,I’M SURE YOU CAN FIND A GROUP OF TAMBORINE BANGERS,SINGING “WE ARE THE WORLD” WHO WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GIVE YOU THEIR SCREWED UP VERSION ON ANY SUBJECT YOU NEED TO KNOW. BETTER YET,JUST GET OUT AND LOOK AROUND YOU,YOU MIGHT NOTICE ALL THE MEXICAN FLAGS FLYING IN OUR COUNTRY,OR ALL THE SIGNS IN SPANISH.HOW ABOUT ALL THE MEDICAL FACILITIES CLOSING BECAUSE OF THE DRAIN BEING PUT ON THEM BY ILLEGALS,OR THE DEVASTATING EFFECT THEY ARE HAVING ON OUR SCHOOLS, NOT TO MENTION ALL THE DRUGS THAT ARE BEING SMUGGLED INTO AMERICA VIA WAY OF MEXICO,AND THE LIST OF PROBLEMS ASSOCIATED WITH THE ILLEGALS JUST GOES ON AND ON. HERE WE HAVE A BUNCH OF THIRD GRADE UNEDUCATED MORONS BOASTING THAT THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE OVER OUR COUNTRY AND KICK THE WHITE ANGLO OUT,AND AMERICANS ARE SUPPOSED TO JUST SIT BACK QUIETLY AND ALLOW THIS CRAP TO GO ON? NOT ON YOUR LIFE! IF IT TAKES BEING “MEAN” TO GET MY POINT ACROSS TO THESE DAMN KNUCKLEHEADS,SO BE IT.TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH,I THINK WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A MUCH LARGER PROBLEM IN THE NEAR FUTURE THAN JUST TALKING MEAN TO EACH OTHER. I PERSONALLY AM CONVINCED THAT THESE ILLEGAL ALIEN CRIMINALS HAVE AN AGENDA TO ACTUALLY TRY TO TAKE OVER PARTS OF OUR COUNTRY BY SHEER WEIGHT OF NUMBERS,AND THAT THERE WILL BE VIOLENCE. BEING NICE DOESN’T ALWAYS WORK FRIEND. UNLIKE SO MANY LIBERALS OUT THERE,I REFUSE TO GIVE AWAY MY COUNTRY WITHOUT A FIGHT IF IT COMES TO IT. HAVE A GREAT DAY! BTW,GOOD LUCK ON YOUR RESEARCH PAPER.
WHAT THE HELL! AS LONG AS I’M BEING MEAN,I JUST WANT TO TELL ALL YOU JACKASSES OUT THERE WHO EMPLOY ILLEGALS THAT YOU ARE DOING NOTHING MORE THAN SELLING OUT OUR COUNTRY.BY STUFFING A FEW MORE DOLLARS IN YOUR POCKETS NOW,YOU ARE ENABLING THE DESTRUCTION OF AMERICA. HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU SLEEP AT NIGHT KNOWING WHAT YOU ARE DOING? HOPEFULLY YOU WILL BE PUT OUT OF BUSINESS SOON,AND THE POLITICIANS ALLOWING THIS TO GO ON WILL HAVE THEIR BUTTS PUT IN JAIL.I WOULD LOVE NOTHING MORE THAN TO HAVE TO PAY A LITTLE MORE FOR MY VEGETABLES AND BE RID OF THE PROBLEM WE ARE NOW FACING. DAMN IT FEELS GOOD TO BE MEAN!
Guess what Jerry?! The government is going to pass an immigration amnesty and all illegals will now be legal residents. Isn’t that so cool?!
There will be a revolution before amnesty ever happens. When deportation begins…..that will be COOLEST! It’s high time the freeloaders went home. WHERE EVER that may be.
then form a vigilante gang and do it now.I DID NOT THINK SO…keep talking behind closed doors.
At that time, Illegals will not mow the grass and build houses. Do you think they want to be legal? of course not, it’s better for them this way. They are getting everything free, why would they want to be legal
Me:
Have you read the proposed amnesty law? Are you aware that its a lottery and the if the individual wins they are required to pay a penalty for each year they have been here illegally? Are you aware that the proposed law requires a basic skills test which includes the ability to speak read and write English? Are you aware that they must provide proof of education, employment and housing?
Jerry:
Im a liberal and very proud to continue the legacy of the liberal policy’s that made this country what it is today. I also believe that our immigration policy does work and my parents are proof of that,, what is broken is the security of our borders not immigration policy.
Every race, every country has its trash, we can not ignore the fact that we Americans also have our own trash.. the difference however is that our trash remains in America and does not immigrate to other countries. Mexico has its corrupt political system and we have corrupt politicians. At the end of the day we will need to find a solution but deporting illegals with out securing our borders will not solve the issue.
ACTUALLY Me, have you ever heard of the mark of the beast ? HONEY ?
well here’s how it goes. You will be counted, this government is going to count you one way or the other, and you will have to get a computer chip in your hand or your forehead. You are going to pay taxes just like the rest of us. You need not think the free ride will go on forever. You will will be paying for my social security real soon. so get off the computer and get your illegal ass to work so I can lay around and watch tv.
You see , this think is going to happen like real soon. The government HONEY needs your money, and that lovely president you have right now is making more money which is going to drive inflation way up HONEY, and so the government piggy bank is going broke. So the free ride will be over soon. better enjoy it while you can. They you will see what it’s like being screwed. Oh and when the MUSLIMS come in and take over, you will have to cover your ass up. I know how you illegals like to run around naked. so you better enjoy being a slut NOW!
GUESS WHAT ME ?! TO A TOTAL MORON LIKE YOURSELF,AMNESTY WOULD BE A COOL THING INDEED. ONLY IT WOULD NOT JUST BE THE ILLEGALS WHO WOULD BECOME “LEGAL”,IT WOULD ALSO MEAN THAT THEIR EXTENDED FAMILIES WOULD THEN BE ALLOWED TO MIGRATE INTO OUR COUNTRY TO THE TUNE OF AT LEAST SIXTY OR SEVENTY MILLION UNSKILLED WORKERS WHO WOULD THEN EXPECT SOCIAL SERVICES BE GIVEN THEM ON THE BACKS OF AMERICAN TAXPAYERS.ISN’T THAT JUST TOO COOL YOU FRIGGIN IDIOT? IT NEVER CEASES TO AMAZE ME THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE SUCH AS YOU RUNNING LOOSE IN THE UNITED STATES.YOU WON’T BE HAPPY UNTIL YOU SEE OUR COUNTRY GIVEN AWAY. DO ME ONE FAVOR AND PLEASE TELL ME EXACTLY WHY YOU THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD THING FOR A BUNCH OF PEOPLE WHO OBVIOUSLY DON’T CARE ABOUT OUR COUNTRY,OR OUR WAY OF LIFE,TO BE GIVEN CITIZENSHIP. YOU SEEM LIKE SUCH A HEAVY THINKER ,THAT THIS SHOULDN’T BE TOO HARD A TASK FOR YOU. IS THERE A POINT WHEN EVEN YOU WOULD SAY THAT THERE ARE TOO MANY ILLEGALS IN AMERICA? PROBABLY NOT. ONE THING YOU CAN COUNT ON IF AMNESTY DOES PASS,IS THAT THERE WILL BE A BACKLASH LIKE YOU’VE NEVER SEEN IN THIS COUNTRY . OUR VERY CULTURE IS AT STAKE HERE,BUT I’M PRETTY SURE THAT YOU DON’T CARE ANYTHING ABOUT AMERICAN CULTURE. PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I’M WRONG. I’LL BE WAITING FOR YOUR RESPONSE
ha!
i was actually hoping i could get some decent help from someone on here.
i think someone (Jerry) just has nothing else to do with their time besides argue a point.
If you feel so strongly about this topic, why dont you get up out of your computer chair and do something about it. I feel the same way as you do (minus some of the plain racist things you say) and I’ve decided not to waste my time being a closed minded jerk on a freaking computer blog. I honestly think people can make a difference in our laws and government but you’re going about it in a completely immature and useless way.
I do however thank you for some of the points you have made about immigration and i’ve decided to use some of those points in my research paper.
Oh for God’s sake, if you need help with your paper about the effects of illegal immigration, just go to GOOGLE or are you too stupid to do that ?
Look around you dufus, you see the effects every day. Just look at how illegals tear up every thing.
Jerry just has his way of saying it. It sure doesn’t bother me to read his postings, and clear display of his “vehement attitude”. Jerry understands the situation alot better than all the smaltz characters that go through their long itterations of equality and amnesty.
Go to a hospital emergency room, go to the IRS office, go to the post office, go just about anywhere and get in line behind people that should NOT even be in this country. You shouldn’t even have to stand in those lines, especially if our government was doing it’s job. I recently spent over three hours renewing my driver’s license standing behind lines of people that didn’t even belong in this country. That really jerks my chain our local governments don’t have the facility, money or people to handled these people. The sad part… most of the illegal aliens are so stupid they require a great deal more instruction for the simplest things. Standing in line behind them makes me angry… we should at least have a line for legal citizens.
I would hate to be stuck behind a bunch of illegals in the hospital waiting room, and have one of my children denied timely care that might cost my child’s life. I’ll guarantee you it’s already happening.
There is only one way America can afford Amnesty to the millions of illegals in our country. The American property owner is going to have to pay exorbitant ad-valorem tax bills. The reason the American Property owner will be paying for it… property can be taken away if the taxes aren’t paid. This is the kind of leverage governments need to collect enough money on a timely basis to provide the benefits assured to people in this country. The local governments have no choice they can’t keep the local community solvent unless taxes go up.
You can blame big Multi-National companies for this economic war on Americans. Americans have made it more than clear what they want. Americans want secure borders and no amnesty for illegal aliens. American elected officials know what Americans want, when do the tyrannical jerks do what their constituents are demanding?
We elect those jerks, and they quickly ignore who put them in office and go about their business of selling out our country to special interests, foreign countries and Multi-national companies.
Jerry sure as heck hasn’t even touched on all the illegal alien problems, now or in the future. Maybe it wouldn’t hurt for a lot more of us to get mad as hell.
So many respondents keep bringing the issue of illegal immigration back to RACE. The reason for that is… The American people have been pushed into the “Racism” corner many times and the attackers generally get their way.
Illegal immigration is about people that have absolutely no business in America, and they are not here except as a liability. They cannot pay their own way, because most are too poorly educated to make enough money to provide for more than basic necessities.
Sure, there are some people that discuss illegal immigration in terms of race, but the fundamental issue is not race. It’s about being in a place you aren’t supposed to be.
If a person breaks out a window or climbs over a fence and into someones property that person can be prosecuted by law. They can be charged with trespass, illegal entry and robbery when they take something that doesn’t belong to them.
Isn’t that exactly what illegal aliens are doing? They climb the fence or enter the country by whatever means is convenient. Illegal aliens steal social services, services Americans pay for Americans. Illegal aliens are trespassers and criminals.
It’s not about race, it’s about climbing over the neighbors fence and stealing from him.
There are laws that allow legal immigration, but illegal aliens are too stupid and lazy for the most part to make the effort to become citizens. They certainly don’t want to be a part of our country. If they did, they’d make every effort to learn the language, customs and laws of this country.
For the most part Mexican illegals are totally opposed to the American way of life, and have no inclination to be a part of this country. They’re here to take all they can take, take and take.
Thieves.
WELL JUST DAMN!!! DOMINEAUX, FROM YOUR LAST LETTER,IT LOOKS LIKE YOUR COMING OVER TO THE DARK SIDE ! WELCOME MY SON ! AND TO YOU KtB , YOU LITTLE MILKTOAST,YOU NEED TO FIND YOURSELF A MORE LIBERAL WEBSITE. YOU MAY NOT LIKE THE WAY I SAY THINGS, BUT I DARE YOU TO SHOW ME WHERE I’M WRONG. YOU ALSO SAID THAT I MADE SOME RACIST COMMENTS. WHERE ? YOU’RE DAMN RIGHT I’M PASSIONATE ABOUT WHAT I SAY ,BUT IT’S A PASSION BASED ON FACTS, AND JUDGING FROM YOUR LETTER,YOU WOULDN’T KNOW A FACT IF IT HIT YOU SQUARE IN THE ASS . I’M SURE THERE’S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WILL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR PARTNER,BUT I’M NOT ONE OF THEM.LIKE I’VE SAID BEFORE ,AND I’LL SAY IT AGAIN,ALL YOU LIBERALS HAVE IS YOUR TOUCHY FEELY AGENDAS, AND OF COURSE THE “RACE CARD”. INSTEAD OF RELYING ON OTHERS FOR YOUR INFORMATION KtB,WHY DON’T YOU GET OFF YOUR BUTT AND LOOK AROUND FOR YOURSELF,YOU MIGHT BE SURPRISED AT WHAT YOU SEE.
I’ve seen a major change in the way ad-valorem property taxes are being collected during the past few years. These are the taxes that are levied on American property owners to pay for so many of the exorbitant costs of services paid for Illegal Aliens. Among the services are indigent medical care, schooling of children, welfare assistance, crime fighting and legal costs, etc.
The local governments do not have any excess funding to meet any extraordinary item expenses. The local governments are not only strapped for cash, but manpower, facilities and equipment as well.
I own serveral properties apart from my home, and I get threatning collection letters now for payment of taxes on these properties. I mean like I get FORECLOSURE NOTICE when taxes are due for the current year. The local governments now work hand in hand with law firms to expedite tax foreclosures. The only relief they provide is for 65 years of age or older, disabled and the property is a residence homestead.
I’ve felt increasing financial pressures from taxing authorities every year and it’s getting continually worse as the influx of illegal immigrants continues to grow.
Americans living in apartments, or renting or only have a single family residence aren’t feeling the financial pressures to a large extent. Yet, people that own single family residences should be feeling pressure. The current financial pressures are nothing like it will be if our government grants amnesty to the millions of illegal aliens that cannot pay their own way in our society.
I understand the average education of Mexican National illegal aliens is 7th grade, which means most probably cannot read or write. These people are dragging down our entire society. I recently read where less than 50% of hispanics graduate high school. What a joke, they get a free education, free lunches, get free transportation to school and they could care less about education. Our education system is just a babysitting program that extends through 12th grade for these illegal immigrants or children of illegal immigrants.
Failure to educate is the major ingredient in the failure of these people in their own country. Why would their poor government want to waste what little resources are available on people that could care less.
I am 100% FOR LEGAL IMMIGRATION. People that come to this country and make extraordinary efforts to learn in school, accept our culture, speak our language and embrace America are the kind of people we want.
Hey jerry, i can see that you have posted many more ignorant messages you obviously dont have a life….well first off I just wanted to start out by saying how fucking ignorant you are Im sure you’ve heard it plenty of times throughout your life, but I just wanted to remind you once again. First off if Mexicans are so stupid like you say they wouldnt be in this country. Yeah they cant take over Their own country becuase its full of corruption people dont really have a voice out there so it makes it nearly impossible to try to change a country like that and that is why they are here if they were so stupid like you say they would stay in Mexico and starve any person in their right mind will do whatever possible to get out of that type of poverty and that is exactly why they are here. When you say they are too stupid to take over the U.S….Look around you moron you see Latino shops, Mexican restaurants, Spanish radio stations, oh and look around you will find signs that are in spanish!!!! Oh and Mr. IGNORANT can you tell me what kind of diseases mexicans are bringing in???????????? because i have not heard of any if you know a bit about your own fucking history you would see that the white man was the first to bring disease!!!!!! By the way who the hell asked you about your “legal Mexican” friends????? I really dont give a damn what they think, they are just as fucking ignorant as you!!!! Hey maybe you should consider getting away from them you know they might give you that Mexican disease!!! lol damn you are funny! Well let me just tell you this one more time WE Are here to stay!! YOU SHOULD STOP PULLING BULLSHIT OUT OF YOUR ASS AND INSTEAD PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS!!! MAYBE THAT WAY YOU WILL SNAP BACK INTO REALITY DUMBASS!!
The sad thing about the INVADERS is that the mostly illiterate individuals do not bring anything beneficial for the US society with them. Also, what they say about becoming dominant in the future, is a truth, a writing on the wall seen by few, even when considering the reality of millions of births and, once receiving US citizenship, the fact of their bringing relatives into the US. Worst of all, for too many Americans, the concepts of patriotism and even the use of the American flag, have lost its meaning. In addition, the desctruction of American mores, including the use of the American Flag, are being aided by the media, that created the “African American” concept, which puts geographical and race origins before American citizenship or other motivations. So, thanks to the media, a President representing a minority of 12%, is elected by a majority of honkies, and anyone who cries “Brainwashing” is branded as a racist.
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Very well said adriana
) Oh Jerry Adriana just kicked your fucking ass lol. I dont know how this fucking racist people are planning to get rid of the 30 million mexican poeple living in the USA when they haven’t even figured out how they are going to replace us lol oh yea bring more slaves from africa to help you build this country right ?? lol keep dreaming people lol
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I used to like the name Adriana, almost named my kid that and I am glad now that I didn’t. The reason Dufus, that you see Mexican shops is because our stupid damned government is giving you people every thing. and you people ARE stupid. And you are damned right about the Mexican diseases. If your country is so damned fucking great , why in the hell are all you parasites here robbing Americans ? HUH ? You are just fucking cock roaches. The free ride is going to be over soon.
LIttle OBama hasn’t been able to grant you amnesty yet HAS HE ?
You are still just a bunch of parasites. People from all over the world come here, and they don’t rob the system. But here you thieves come here from stinking Mexico and you think we OWE you . You are just descendants of the once great Aztec nation and you were beaten then and you will be beaten again. Cos you just can’t fucking stay sober.
WELL NOW, ADRIANA, WHERE DO I START?OH YEAH,TRY TO USE SOME PUNCTUATION IN YOUR SENTENCES. AND PUNCTUATION IS NOT SOMETHING YOU DO WITH JOSE! THANKS FOR WORRYING ABOUT ME NOT HAVING A LIFE,BUT IN FACT I DO. IT USED TO BE A WHOLE LOT BETTER BEFORE THE ONSLAUGHT OF ALL YOU STINKING ILLEGALS. I HATE TO BE THE ONE TO BREAK IT TO YOU,BUT ,YES,MEXICANS CAN BE IN AMERICA AND BE STUPID. TAKE YOU FOR EXAMPLE. YOU SOUNDED A LOT DUMBER IN YOUR LAST LETTER THAN I HAD ORIGINALLY GIVEN YOU CREDIT FOR. BUT,THEN AGAIN,I’M SURE THAT YOU’RE STUPID JUST ABOUT ANYWHERE YOU GO. YOU ARE CORRECT IN YOUR STATEMENT THAT MEXICO IS A CORRUPT COUNTRY,BUT, I DISAGREE WITH YOU THAT YOU CANNOT EFFECT CHANGE IN YOUR HOMELAND. WHAT A SORRY LOT OF PEOPLE YOU ARE, THAT YOU WOULD RATHER COME TO AMERICA AND HOLD YOUR RALLIES AND TELL AMERICANS HOW BAD WE ARE, RATHER THAN FIX YOUR OWN SORRY-ASS GOVERNMENT. AS FAR AS STARVING,I HAVEN’T SEEN VERY MANY SKINNY FOLKS SNEAKING ACROSS THE BORDER. AS I’VE SAID BEFORE,MEXICO IS A WEALTHY NATION ,BUT MOST OF YOU PEONS ARE JUST TOO DAMN IGNORANT ,OR TOO DAMN LAZY TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT CHANGING YOUR PLOT IN LIFE IN YOUR OWN COUNTRY, IT’S A WHOLE LOT EASIER FOR ILLEGALS TO COME HERE AND PLAY THE POOR VICTIMIZED IMMIGRANT,WHEN, IN FACT, YOU ARE NOT AN IMMIGRANT AT ALL,YOU ARE ONLY A BOIL ON THE BUTT OF AMERICAN SOCIETY. ARE YOU PROUD OF THE FACT THAT THERE ARE LOTS OF SIGNS IN SPANISH IN AMERICA ?I’M SURE YOU ARE . TO ME IT ONLY MEANS THAT YOUR PEOPLE HAVE NO DESIRE TO ASSIMMILATE INTO AMERICAN CULTURE. DON’T YOU THINK THAT IF YOU COME TO ANOTHER COUNTRY TO LIVE,THAT YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME COMMON COURTESY ,AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE OF THAT COUNTRY? AGAIN I’M SURE YOU DON’T. DO YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT WOULD ALLOW THEIR BRIGHTEST MINDS TO LEAVE? NOT ONLY NO,BUT HELL NO! THEY ONLY LET THE DREGS OF THEIR SOCIETY OUT.PEOPLE MUCH LIKE YOU ADRIANA. ON THE SUBJECT OF DISEASES,WHEN THE WHITE MAN CAME TO THE NEW WORLD HE DID INTRODUCE SOME DISEASES,BUT HAS SINCE ERRADICATED THEM . HERES A FEW BROUGHT BACK TO LIFE BY YOUR DISEASE RIDDEN ILLEGALS—- “LEPROSY”-IN FORTY YEARS PRIOR TO 2002,THERE WERE ONLY NINE HUNDRED CASES OF LEPROSY IN AMERICA,SINCE 2002 THERE HAVE BEEN OVER NINE THOUSAND CASES OF THE DISEASE,AND ALMOST ALL WERE ATTRIBUTED TO ILLEGALS.” SICKLE CELL”-ONE IN SIXTEEN MEXICANS CARRY THE GENETIC TRAIT FOR SICKLE CELL. HERE’S ONE YOU’LL LIKE,”NEUROCYSTICEROSIS”- CARRIERS OF THIS DISEASE TEND TO BE PEOPLE FROM RURAL DEVELOPING COUNTRIES WITH POOR HYGIENE,WHERE PIGS ARE ALLOWED TO ROAM FREELY AND EAT HUMAN FECES. THE CONDITION IS RIFE IN MEXICO. WHAT THEY’RE SAYING IS THAT WHEN YOU SNEAK INTO AMERICA,”WASH YOUR SORRY ASS” HERE’S A COUPLE MORE- TUBERCULOSIS,POLIO,MALARIA,DENGUE FEVER,CHAGAS DISEASE,ETC.ETC. YOU ILLEGALS ARE KILLING OUR COUNTRY,AND YOU DO NOT CARE. YOU HAVE NO LOVE FOR AMERICA WHATSOEVER. WHAT I AM HEARING FROM YOU CRIMINALS, IS THAT YOU WANT TO TAKE OVER OUR COUNTRY. WHY DON’T YOU JUST STOP ALL THE BULLSHIT AND DO IT? WE’LL SEE WHO STAYS. THOUGHT YOU WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT IT WAS ANNOUNCED ON THE NEWS TODAY, THAT ANOTHER EMERGENCY CENTER IS BEING CLOSED DOWN IN A NEIGHBORING TOWN OF MINE BECAUSE ILLEGALS HAVE SUCKED IT DRY,JUST LIKE THEY ARE SUCKING OUR WHOLE COUNTRY DRY! BY THE WAY,IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO READ ABOUT THE DISEASES I HAVE LISTED,CHECK OUT THE JOURNAL OF AMERICAN PHYSICIANS AND SURGEONS,BUT THEY WOULD ALL BE LYING,RIGHT? TO ANY OF YOU FOLKS OUT THERE WHO ENJOY GOING OUT TO A RESTAURANT,PLEASE REMEMBER THAT A LOT OF DISEASES ARE PASSED ON TO YOU COURTESY OF MEXICO. THEY ARE NASTY LITTLE FUCKERS!
It would be nice if both sides in this immigration issue would stop the name calling and fowl language. I believe that the citizens of this country be they white or black or Hispanic have the right to control their own borders and set the criteria for the immigration policies of our county. The middle class in this country is a pawn for business that want cheap labor and the democrats who want free votes. We the middle class pay the bills for the illegals health care, schooling and prisons. But the bottom line is how many is enough. If we grant amnesty to 12-20 million illegals, does that mean that that ends it. In 1986 we granted it to 3million ( it was suppose to be only 1million). So does that mean in 15-20 years we then grant it to 50-60 million?. So how many is enough?
Miami girl, I used to be a liberal that felt sorry for illegals until I was raped by one and beaten up. THEY MADE ME RACIST. Ok. I didn’t used to be like that . HE got off FREE. He has yet to have pulled any time. If it could happen to me, it could happen to you. Those people can be barbaric ! yes we have white rapists too. I am just telling you why I hate there being here. They think they are above the law. That needs to stop.
miamigirl
Good response!
The sad part is our government has neglected to enforce our immigration laws for so long there just isn’t going to be an easy way out.
My personal experience with Mexican National illegal immigrants has been nothing but extremely cordial and friendly. These are not bad people for the most part.
We have a lot of crime associated with illegal immigrants, but historically speaking we have had the same thing problems with every large immigrant group that came to America (even legally), i.e. the Irish, the Italians, etc.
The government of Mexico is driving people out of their country, and our apathetic government is just watching them cross the border. America has always been a half-ass friend to Mexico. Twenty years ago, when Mexicans were crossing the border in America in large numbers the flag should have gone up. The Mexican people were communicating in the only way they knew. The were leaving their country in the thousands. America could have helped.
American business has been so pervasive in the running of our country. Businessmen had the answer – the Maquiladora plants lining the border was our answer to the misery in Mexico.
Mexicans migrated from remote regions of their own country to work in those Maquiladora plants stretching along the border with Mexico/America.
The Mexicans working in those plants were poorly educated, indigent and without hope. These workers may have been uneducated, but they weren’t stupid. The began to see it was easy to acquire a better life for their families by just going a little further…cross the border.
The Maquiladora plants still draw their share of indigent Mexicans throughout Mexico, and still these people see a better future in America.
During the past ten years American business altered the business model. Why build plants in Mexico, just let the Mexicans cross the border and work them cheap in America. No need to spend all that money building plants, or messing with a corrupt Mexican government. They will come to America as long as we let them.
Our government should have tried to become more involved with the people of Mexico, rather than let business take over and exploit them for labor. Exploitation could have had some benefits for Mexico, if we would have built schools, hospitals, and other infrastructure to make a better life for Mexicans.
American business did not or never will have the answer to unifying or making relations “genuinely” better between ANY COUNTRY. The almighty dollar serves well, but only goes so far.
Governments like Mexico are autocratic and apathetic towards their own people. The passivity of the Mexican people keeps them from revolution, which is what they need. Mexico is rich in natural resources, which are controlled by an Oligarchy of the rich and powerful. Those resources belong to the people, yet the people of Mexico will not rebel and take authority over their own resources.
The goverment of Mexico would have certainly failed by now, if America had not enabled the rich and powerful in Mexico by allowing an open border. The government of Mexico is going to do every possible thing it can to keep that border open, which may mean sanctions against America. Don’t laugh, we need the resources of Mexico…not their people.
MIAMIGIRL, YOU’RE RIGHT, IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD DISCUSS THE ILLEGAL SITUATION LIKE GROWN-UPS,UNFORTUNATELY MOST OF THE ILLEGALS IN OUR COUNTRY HAVE NO DESIRE TO DISCUSS ANYTHING IN AN INTELLIGENT MANNER, THEY ARE HERE, THEY HAVE AN AGENDA, AND THAT IS ALL THERE IS TO IT IN THEIR EYES. I HONESTLY DON’T THINK THAT THEY UNDERSTAND HOW AMERICANS FEEL ABOUT THE SOVEREIGNTY OF AMERICA, AND WHAT LENGHTS WE WILL GO TO TO PROTECT THAT SOVEREIGNTY. WHAT THEY NEED IN MEXICO IS A GOOD OLD FASHION REVOLUTION. THEY SEEM TO HAVE NO PROBLEM GETTING LARGE NUMBERS OF PROTESTERS TOGETHER IN OUR COUNTRY, WHY CAN’T THEY GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY AND OVERTHROW THAT SORRY EXCUSE THEY HAVE FOR A GOVERNMENT? I’M SORRY,I JUST FIND IT DIFFICULT TO FEEL MUCH COMPASSION FOR A COUNTRY FULL OF PEOPLE WHO WONT STAND UP FOR THEMSELVES, AND WHO WOULD BE WILLING TO SELL AMERICA OUT FASTER THAN CRAP THROUGH A GOOSE. AMERICA TAKES IN MORE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS YEARLY THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD, WE ARE A VERY COMPASSIONATE COUNTRY,BUT WE SHOULD NOT BE SUBJECTED TO THE WHOLESALE ONSLAUGHT FROM OUR “FRIENDS” SOUTH OF THE BORDER. TRY GOING TO MEXICO AND PULLING SOME OF THE GARBAGE ILLEGALS ARE GETTING AWAY WITH IN OUR COUNTRY. THEY WOULDN’T PUT UP WITH IT FOR ONE DAMN MINUTE, BUT WE ARE EXPECTED TO.WHERE’S THE JUSTICE IN THAT? ALL WE DO IS SIT AROUND AND TALK ABOUT THIS, AND DEBATE THAT,AND ALL THE WHILE ILLEGALS ARE STILL FLOODING IN WITH IMPUNITY. IT HAS TO STOP. MAYBE A REVOLUTION IN OUR OWN COUNTRY WOULDN’T BE SUCH A BAD IDEA, I DON’T REALLY WANT ONE , BUT WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF OPTIONS. OUR GOVERNMENT OBVIOUSLY DOES NOT HAVE THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITIZENS OF AMERICA AT HEART ANY LONGER. IF ANYONE HAS A SOLUTION TO THIS MESS, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR IT.
Well said Jerry. IF those people can protest in this country , why can they not do it in their own ? No , they come here for one reason and one reason only. FREE RIDE.
BTW MIAMIGIRL, IN REGARDS TO YOUR QUESTION CONCERNING WHETHER GIVING THE ILLEGALS IN OUR COUNTRY AMNESTY,THE ANSWER IS NO, IT WOULD BY NO MEANS END THE FLOOD OF ILLEGALS. AS SOON AS ALL THE ILLEGALS WERE GIVEN AMNESTY, THEY WOULD ALL BE ALLOWED TO BRING IN THEIR EXTENDED FAMILY MEMBERS TO THE TUNE OF GOD KNOWS HOW MANY MORE MILLIONS, AND THE BORDER STILL WOULD NOT BE SECURED,OUR GOVERNMENT, BIG BUSINESS, AND THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT WOULD SEE TO THAT. WE ARE TOTALLY SCREWED, UNLESS WE TAKE SOME DRASTIC MEASURES.
I agree with miami girl that this country, just like any other sovereign nation, ought to be allowed to put in place measures necessary to secure it’s borders and determine appropriate immigration laws and regulations. I feel however that there are several issues in this debate that have been and continue to be overlooked. The first one is that the U.S. has established itself as a capitalist society and laws of production cost minimization in order to ensure profit maximization apply. America is a business or industry focused nation. If the U.S. is going to be a purely capitalist society within an increasingly global community then it has to realise that there will be more opportunities for business to cut down on costs. In this case this lowering of production costs comes in the form of ‘illegal immigrants’. You cannot have your cake and eat it too unfortunately. Another issue that needs pointing out is that pretty much every individual in this country (with the exception of the Native American) is a product of some sort of immigration more illigal than legal. It is for that reason that I find it rather interesting that many of the people who display the most animosity towards immigrants (both legal and illigal) can be traced back to the ‘friendly’ pilgrims who having been ‘invited’ to migrate to the U.S decided to systematically kill the natives and advance their own agenda. Finger pointing in my opinion gets us nowhere because for every finger you have pointed at one individual there are several ones pointed at you. I do not believe a militant approach to this issue is appropriate. I think anyone coming into this country should be expected to abide by the laws here at the same time I think the U.S. needs to re-evaluate it’s immigration policies to ensure that well meaning migrants are not unecessarily hindered. The American values that most speak of did not fall from the sky but are an amalgamation of cultures, attitudes and beliefs brought in from various parts of the world.
NON Immigrant, My people were here before 1776, and every country in the world has immigrants. So stop making excuses for the parasites that are sneaking in and taking over. Well meaning migrants are not hindered. Hindered from what , destroying this nation ? Boy it’s plain to see who’s sleeping with them.
non-immigrant
I would like to address some of your issues and raise a few of my own. Yes, we are becoming more and more an capitalist society not only because of globalization, but also because of the greed of some if not most of US Companies. You can just look at the large gap between the Ceo ‘s compensation and that of the working man or woman (I can’t cite the figures now but I will post them later) Our law makers seem to serve their interests more than the the needs and pocketbooks of the tax payers. Are you saying that business will always need illegal immigrants to compete in todays markets? If this is so, than the passing of this latest amnesty is really a hoax, as was the amnesty of 1986. As to the having your cake and eating it too, this is made possible by the middle class picking up the tab for health care, schooling and other costs that are generated by cheap labor. (not cheap to the bottom line to those who have to pay it)
Next lets deal with the issue of who has a right to be here. It seems to me that when one questions what right to the present citizens of this country have to pass judgement on who should be allow to stay or leave. It’s about rubbing our noses in our countries shameful past. . We are being told that you (meaning the present citizens) are also here illegally and you have no right to stop us. Make no mistake we have a shameful past both with the way we settled this land the introduction of slavery, but some people would agree that we have as a whole done more good than bad as a country. I would also like to reminder you and others that the Native American migrated from Asia and who knows who they met on their way and was displaced.
Watch the Lou Dobbs new broadcast on CNN. It’s on weekdays 3PM PST and 6PM EST.
Dobbs is addressing immigration and business issues that are affecting our middle class.
The strength of the middle class is what has made America great. If the middle class is wiped out we’ll have the same thing they have in Mexico and the rest of South America. Elite class with the education and money, and the peons with no money no education…and no hope.
I was watching all the jibe on TV tonight and those smilin’ congressional ferrets are just going to pass another immigration bill that won’t be administered or enforced by the government.
They’re going to pass another “in word only” immigration laws to get Americans thinking about something else. It’ll be back to the same old open borders and invasion by illegals in a short time.
If the American tax system wasn’t voluntary the government would be broke. Our government is so inept the perpetrators would have to walk up to them and tell them they were disobeying the way, and still the bureaucrats wouldn’t know what to do about it.
The government bureucrats would tell them to go home, and come back on Tuesday or some junk like that.
This is the way of it, and I hate having to say what I believe will result.
Looks like Americans are in dire need of researching U.S. history. I’ve noticed that proponents of illegal immigration are adept at comparing their illegal act of crossing into the U.S. with that of slavery. And I am sick of the U.S. taking the rap for the whole world!
First of all, slave trading was performed by many countries and Africian tribes even sold off their own people and people of neighboring tribes. One cannot impose today’s values upon another period in history because things were different. In colonial times, there were very few people to work If you look at the colonial records, etc. you will find that some slaves were treated well. Frankly, from the figures that a Mexican worker earns per day and the way they live in Mexico, the slaves were probably treated much better. Many of our ancestors may have been indentured servants-the difference being that they did have a limit on the length of their servitude. In addition, Mexico did have slaves as early as 1519 although it is doubtful the Mexican community will have knowledge of it or acknowledge the fact. COLONIAL AND U. S. LAWS REGARDING SLAVERY DID NOT EXIST BEFORE THE CIVIL WAR SO NO LAW WAS BROKEN. No matter how you feel about it today.
Another argument seems to be that “we stole the land from them”. Well, I fail to understand how we stole land from them when they crossed our borders and killed residents on our soil (1848). Then, when we entered into war with them and won, we paid them $15,000,000 for California, undisputed control of Texas, Nevada, Utah, parts of Colorado, Arizona, New Mexico and Wyoming. The U. S. government also agreed to settle all claims of U. S. citizens against Mexico which, I believe, was around $3 million. In 1853 the U.S. purchased land which is now southern Arizona and southern New Mexico for an additional $10,000,000. Mexican residents had a choice to remain and become U. S. citizens
Some of our ancestors had to endure the harrowing experience of Ellis Island before they could even enter the country; some were turned away. Yet, the illegals are coming across the border without so much as a tongue depresser stuck in their mouth.
Shouting “racist” seems to be the favorite, easiest avenue but in reading these posts illegals and pro-illegal immigration advocates might do well to look in the mirror.
Fed up, you are right, the only thing they can do is holler racism. That’s their meal ticket.
It’s Ok to try to discuss history, but like most of the responses we make…they ain’t listening. You’re right of course, they also don’t know zip about history. Obviously, the future of America is at the mercy of world class dummies, when you consider the debaucle of our current education system.
The foreign students know more about America than our own kids. You want to control a discussion, just discuss history with college graduates of the past twenty years. You might find one college educated person that didn’t sleep through history, but you’ll undoubtably never find a high school graduate that knows any history.
Here is an article I wrote on how so much has been allowed by our so-called representative government.
http://blograz.com/raz/?p=13
I find it interesting how ill-informed most people are. I think this stems from the fact Americans have always trusted their government. The American government hasn’t made a boo boo before equal to allowing our borders to be so insecure, allowing millions of invading illegal immigrants.
Most Americans just kinda whine about illegal immigration and expect the government to do something about it. The illegal immigrants are too stupid and lazy to do anything about their future in America. The multi-national companies, and special interests groups will sure fight for the dummies to keep exploiting them.
Government has got to step up and do the job Americas expect. Protect our people, uphold their rights, uphold the Constitution and aid in the betterment of life for our cititzens.
Americans are too lazy to do all the jobs that “illegal immigrants are taking away from us”
JERRY, how old are you?
You act like you are an unhappy 40 year-old bachelor. I’m curious to know how old you really are. It’s hard to tell because the points you make are educated but the way you speak makes you sound like a 6 or 7 year old. Although, it IS entertaining to read your comments because they make me laugh.
anonymous It’s non of your business how old Jerry is. What I want to know is how long have you been in the country illegally ?
domineaux
I read your article and totally agree with you. I also agree that nothing any of us say is going to make a difference to the illegals. I suppose to them, this is a booming economy but to me we are going into very tough times. I don’t have the luxury of a family of 15 contributing financially for combined survival just as most “Americans” don’t.
I have never before in my life written to a congressman/woman until now and I really don’t have any confidence that they are going to listen to native constituents. I know my own situation is rapidly becoming desperate and I have a friend who is in extreme financial and medical difficulty; there is no help for her. And might I add, neither of us have ever been on welfare or any other subsidy. In fact, if needed, our chances are nil. Many others are in this same type of situation. Yet, we can foot the bills for people who enter the country illegally. Meanwhile the rising costs are making it impossible for our own children (who do work, by the way) to afford even an apartment and get started on their own lives or to get a decent education. If the majority of Americans didn’t have superb work ethics, this country wouldn’t be a place the illegals would want to come. Never, in my life, have I hired anyone to do work for me that I could do myself.
I would really like to hear if anyone has any feasible suggestions on just how we might get Congress to listen to us because it sure isn’t happening now. I can’t afford to go to any of the demonstrations (something else I have never participated in) I’ve always been very proud of this country and been very patriotic but right now, I feel like American citizens have been very (excuse me, but for lack of a better word) SCREWED!
Reading you post surprise me. I stopped aat “nothing we can do to change things”. Yes, there are lots of things you could do. You could change the way you vote, you could write letters, e-mails and phone calls to all politicians. Americans can do much and they can change how politicians think and write their bills. Mexicans are doing it, Jews are doing it, and other governments are doing it.
AMERICANS CAN DO IT IF THEY PUT THEIR HANDS TOGETHER AND SPREAD THE WORDS AND GET IT KNOWN EVERYWHERE.
fedup
Your friend that needs medical care… that is always the kind of thing I hate to read about. Indigents get care, and middle class Americans have to pay. The hospitals and doctors will hound an American citizen to the grave for the money owed them. They’ll ruin your credit, file lawsuits, sieze your home or other assets to get paid.
This might help your friend, it is an over simplification, the concept is solid.
You might tell your friend, who isn’t completely broke to put personal assets into a trust/s, make children or other loved-ones as beneficiaries of the trust. Cars, homes, all kinds of assets can go into trusts. Then your friend will have effectively have few assets, and no one can attach those assets in trust. Your friend can declare poverty and get medicaid.
It won’t help with dental, but it will work with medical. It is senseless to lose everything someone has worked a lifetime for and end up penniless. Our government apathy towards citizens has created this mess, let the government pay for it and tell your friend not to think twice about it.
I know it sounds terrible to have to resort to such skull duggery. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve known people who worked all their lives and had failing health. Those people had already signed over their homes and property to hospitals to pay their bills. The hospitals were patiently dealing with the situation. As soon as the patient died then the hospital passively took possession of the home and assets of the patient.
If there was a surviving spouse, that spouse agreed to take it someplace else for the consideration of time allowed by the hospital to let the patient reside in the home until death.
That is still going on all over America.
There are 45 miillion American citizens without health care. It is crisis and our government is twiddling thumbs and doing nothing.
I appreciate reading your responses.
domineaux
I appreciate your repsonses as well. I have phoned my friend and read her your information. She had thought about it before but there are some circumstances involved which may cause a problem. She really needs advice from an attorney but she lives in a rather remote area and it’s pretty well locked up. There are no attorneys who give a free first consultation to even get her started. I still think there must be a way somewhere but I don’t know where to look for it.
Too bad we aren’t as informed as to how to work through our own system as the illegals seem to be.
fedup
Sad to say, but she’s going to need an attorney. She cannot afford to have ill-prepared or unlawful documents. She will have to look at it this way. She will be able to save most of everything she has and can pass those assets to loved ones. The proceeds of a trust normally do not even have to pass through probate as beneficiaries are defined within the documents.
Health problems will force her to make distateful choices. She will have to deal with the health issues, and the alternatives are all going to be hard decisions for her. I know how hard it is for self-reliant people who have never asked for charity. Our government has sat on it’s apathetic you know what and it has forced people to forgo their dignity to just survive.
I would suggest she share her plight with those who stand to gain from her being able to retain her assets through a trust arrangement. I know personally of an elderly couple with no children who got their grand nieces and nephews to come up with the money to do the estate plans. The husband had huge medical bills and she was able to live on their family farm (48 acres) until she died 12 years later. The farm then went to the nephews and nieces at her death. The nephews and nieces acqured the property at her death, which they would not have received had the property not been in a trust.
The little farm appreciated in value and the heirs sold it for 2,600 per acre. It would have been terrible for the elderly couple, who had lived on that farm over ninety years to have left nothing to their loved ones.
If your friend is to proud too do that, she might sit down and think about leaving her heirs nothing. I think her heirs would appreciate her candor and thoughtfulness to try to do something for them. Anyone that would be disrespectful of her for making such a request shouldn’t be allowed to participate as a beneficiary of her trust/s.
I think she could probably get well-meaning strangers to participate in such an arrangement, even if she had a very small estate. It is hard to argue with pennies for dollars.
domineaux
Thank you for so much for your input. There are some other factors that need to come to light but I don’t believe it is appropriate on this blog as it is getting off track of the subject matter; it isn’t fair to others. I would be willing to set up another email address solely for that purpose and at the end terminate that address. Would you be willing to do the same? The ideas a much needed.
ANONYMOUS, I JUST CAN’T SEEM TO GET AWAY FROM YOUR LIBERAL DRIBBLE. I TOLD YOU ON ANOTHER SITE THAT I AM A VIETNAM VETERAN AND WAS IN THE MARINE CORPS. HAVE YOU BEEN IN A COMA ? THAT SHOULD GIVE YOU AN INDICATION OF MY AGE , OR ,DON’T YOU KNOW HOW TO COUNT? IF YOU’RE REALLY CURIOUS,WHY DON’T YOU COME DOWN TO GEORGIA ON THE 22nd OF THIS MONTH, WE’RE HAVING A BIKER PARTY, I’LL GIVE YOU THE ADDRESS IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME . BY THE WAY, YOU STARTED YOUR LETTER WITH (AMERICANS ARE TOO LAZY TO DO ALL THE JOBS THAT “ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS ARE TAKING AWAY FROM US”.) THAT STATEMENT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME WHATSOEVER. PLEASE ENLIGHTEN ME AS TO WHAT YOU MEANT BY IT. I’M ALSO GLAD THAT I MAKE YOU LAUGH, AT LEAST YOU HAVE THAT IN YOUR MISERABLE LITTLE LIFE . AS FAR AS MY LIFE GOES, IT COULDN’T BE BETTER, I HAVE A BEAUTIFUL WIFE, I OWN MY OWN BUSINESS, AND I RIDE MY HARLEY. WHY DON’T YOU DO YOURSELF A FAVOR ANONYMOUS ,AND CORRESPOND WITH ADRIANA IN THE FUTURE , I THINK THE TWO OF YOU HAVE A LOT MORE IN COMMON THAN WE DO, AND I KNOW THAT YOU LIBERALS ONLY WANT TO TALK TO PEOPLE WHO AGREE WITH THEM.YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND ANONYMOUS , I LOVE MY COUNTRY, AND YOU WANT TO GIVE IT AWAY.
Jerry
Anyone that hides behind “anonymous” isn’t worth responding to. Kinda like on TV when they black out peoples faces. B.S. is all that kinda junk is. Anyone that is too big a coward to be outfront should NEVER be believed for nothing.
The funny part is… a nickname is still kinda secretive. You’d think that would be enough. I used to use my real name until the spammers turned my email in hell mail.
I finally had more than enough so since I’m an artist, I decided to create a cartoon based on illegal immigration. How would I go about submitting it for possible use on this sight?
DOMINEAUX , I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU,BUT, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT FOR SOME PEOPLE , BEING ABLE TO SAY WHAT THEY WANT WITHOUT DIVULGING THEIR IDENTITY IS THE CLOSEST THING TO BRAVE AS THEY’LL EVER GET, AND I GUESS SOME PEOPLE NEED THAT. ANONYMOUS,WHY DON’T YOU TRY TO DECIPHER WHAT I AM SAYING , AND STOP DWELLING SO MUCH ON HOW I AM SAYING IT. WE CAN’T ALL BE BORING. HAVE A GREAT DAY!
Illegal aliens cause more deahts PER YEAR than 9/11 alone. I find it disturbing that some people are fighting for the rights of these murderers; ILLEGAL ones in first place. So they do jobs for us…. it’s not worth the loss of our poeple when the money they make goes to MEXICO anyways! This stuff gets me so mad. It seems to me that the government cares more about them than it’s own natural-born Americans. Why is it that someone can come to this country illegaly and get FREE health care if they are injured, yet my family suffers through spending 20,000 to insure me after a car accident? UGH! I’m so fed up. I’m at the point of not even wanting to live in America.
You nailed it, but you’ve gotta realize there are forces at work. These forces are big business taking care of itself and to heck with the people.
Government has to step up an deal with big business. That’s going to be tough, because it costs so much to get elected to office. I recently heard it would cost 400,000,000 to get elected to president of the US. You look a that number real hard, that is $1.25 per every man, woman and child in America. That is just the presidential race, I can’t imagine the money it takes in all to elect a Congress.
It is going to require major government reforms to modify the election processes, especially the funding of election campaigns. Our government will never get right with the American people with that kind of overhead cost to just get elected.
Then it’s going to take government intervention into business and trade, that is going to be a hard fight. Big business and special interests are not going to lay down and take it without a huge fight.
You and I can raise all the stink we want, but until the Good Ole Boys Network is busted up, nothing is going to change.
An article I wrote on the business running America
http://blograz.com/raz/?p=13
When do Americans start declaring just exactly what we are dealing with. It is tyranny. I don’t believe our elected officials think of it that way. They realize they’re not giving Americans what they want, but they’re giving us something and splitting up the pie. Our government is now destructive of the ends it was created for. I never thought in my wildest dreams I would ever live to say that.
Americans trust their government. Americans have their head in the sand, and will have it there until major issues of deprivation are a fact of life in America.
What is good for business is not good for America. What is good for business was good for America, when business products were produced in America by American labor at decent wages. This has all changed in the past 10 years so significantly that it may not be reversable, or possible to alter the process enough to uphold our economy.
Wetbacks go home……….we don’t need you and don’t want you. We prefer real immigrants who come here legally and want to be real citizens.
Miamigirl,
I am glad you took the time to “address” some of my issues and would like to respond to the points you raised. Firstly, though we both agree that America is becoming extremely capitalist, it is not alone in this pursuit. More and more European and Asian countries are becoming business and industry centred in order to compete in the current environment. It is not just the greed of Ceo’s the has brought about the need to find ways to minimize production costs it is partly due to the current competitive environment. Even well meaning business people have to deal with the issues of competition and increasing costs to do business. It is becoming increasingly difficult to do business and realize meaningful profits in this economic climate. If you read my comments carefully you will notice that I did not suggest that business will always need illegal immigrants to compete, I stated that business will always need cheap ways to provide goods and services and “in this case” it comes in the form of illegal immigrants. The passing of the amnesty bill, contrary to your interpretation, is a clear indication of this. By providing illegals with amnesty (which just in case you are wondering I am not particularly in support of) the government will ensure that the individuals providing cheap labour and services are legalized and continue to be utilized by American business. With regard to the middle class picking up the tab for schooling, healthcare and other costs, the strain illegal immigrants have placed on the healthcare system is just the straw that broke the camels back. The fact of the matter is the American healthcare system has not been adequately effective and has been under tremendous pressure from even the ‘natural born’ citizens of this country. The statistics regarding uninsured Americans who use the healthcare system is staggering. It would be foolhardy and down right erroneous for any American to think and suggest that illegal immigration alone is bringing down the American health care system (which does not effectively work for and and include all Americans). With regard to your “shameful past” there is no point in referring to it as such if you do not firstly learn from those mistakes and secondly take from them an even greater understanding of the multifaceted nature issues such as this one. The bottom line is the early Americans fled Europe and religious persecution and found a safe haven here. Why is it then so difficult for people who have “learnt from their past” to even remotely begin to understand the desperate situations many have to be in ( risking death, arrest, illness, etc) in order to come to the U.S. Many migrants see this continent the same way the ancestors of Americans saw it; a land of opportunity, a place where they could escape religious and ethnic persecution, a place where they could settle and rebuild their lives. With regard to Native Americans migrating from Asia, I would think empowered with that knowledge you would be more understanding of others who choose to migrate here. By bringing up that point you are essentially implying that they can be equated to you, after all they too just migrated to America, and if that is the case why can’t others choosing to migrate enjoy the same. Lets not forget that not all illegals are Mexicans and not all Mexicans are illegals. I have seen numerous foreigners who have legally entered the U.S. only to fall out of status against all their efforts and join the illegal group because of the extremely restrictive laws that exist. I believe people should enter this country legally and be given reasonable opportunities to remain legal and settle if they chose to. I am not a proponent of illegal immigration, but I do believe in greater understanding and a level headed approach to the issue by parties on both sides of this debate.
non-immigrant. There is NO excuse for Mexicans to come here illegally. If We Americans went to Mexico illegally , we would not be treated like Queens and Kings as illegals get treated when the arrive here. They are moochers plain and simple. I used to work with them. They told me that they knew what they were doing, and that they were coming here to get money, however they can get it so they can send it back home to grandma who puts it in the bank. They are still loyal to their country and they hate us .
When my people came here from Ireland in 1682, they did not expect people to keep them up. They did not have slaves either. They worked and put into the system. illegals are just robbing us blind and they don’t care ! They have an in YOUR face attitude, and they need some slapping around. Just look at children who given every thing they want by their parents. They wind up ungrateful, unthankful, unholy. They think every one owes them. Well that’s what we are seeing with the illegal criminals from Mexico. IF you are in this country and you don’t have papers to be here, YOU ARE A CRIMINAL. Stop taking up for them !
We should have put a stop to this YEARS AGO.
non-immigrant
What a nice long-winded one paragraph pile of nonsense. You should first write you comments in a word processor of some kind and re-read it a few times to sort the tripe out so people can understand it.
You said. “I am not a proponent of illegal immigration, but I do believe in greater understanding and a level headed approach to the issue by parties on both sides of this debate.”
This is not about a debate between both sides. The illegals are invading our country and shouldn’t be allowed a single syllable of debate or defense. They are here illegally and have no rights.
HEY, NON-IMMIGRANT, WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP! I HOPE YOUR MAMA SMACKS YOU IN THE MOUTH FOR TALKING LIKE THAT. DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT IN THE HELL YOU ARE SAYING? I DOUBT IT. ONE THING’S FOR CERTAIN, YOU WOULD MAKE A GREAT POLITICIAN, AND THAT’S NOT A COMPLIMENT. YOU KEEP SAYING THAT YOU ARE NOT A PROPONENT OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, BUT YOU KEEP TRYING TO JUSTIFY THEIR BEING HERE. BY THE WAY,THEY ARE NOT IMMIGRANTS, THEY ARE ILLEGAL ALIEN CRIMINALS. ALSO, PLEASE TELL ME WHEN AMERICA WASN’T A CAPITALIST COUNTRY. YOU ALSO WANTED TO MAKE THE POINT THAT AMERICANS HAVE BEEN PUTTING A SEVERE STRAIN ON AN INADEQUATE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM. SO WHAT? IT’S OURS , AND IT WASN’T FALLING COMPLETELY APART UNTIL MILLIONS OF ILLEGALS STARTED DRAINING THE RESOURCES FROM IT. CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A LEGAL IMMIGRANT AND AN ILLEGAL ALIEN? OR DOES IT NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE TO YOU? TRYING TO TALK TO YOU LIBERALS IS LIKE BEATING YOUR HEAD AGAINST A BRICK WALL . A BRICK WALL DOESN’T SOUND SO BAD AFTER ALL . MAYBE ALL ILLEGALS AREN’T MEXICAN PROFESSOR, BUT ABOUT 85% OF THEM SURE AS HELL ARE , AND NO ONE EVER SUGGESTED THAT ALL MEXICANS ARE CRIMINALS . I DON’T BELIEVE I’VE EVER SEEN ANYONE TALK OUT OF THEIR MOUTH AND THEIR ASS AT THE SAME TIME LIKE YOU SEEM TO HAVE A KNACK OF DOING PARTNER. YOU’RE REALLY JUST ANOTHER LIBERAL FROM SOME PANTY WAIST EUROPEAN COUNTRY AREN’T YOU? I CAN’T WAIT TO READ SOME MORE OF YOUR DOUBLE TALK BULLSHIT . BY THE WAY, PEOPLE WHO COME TO THIS COUNTRY LEGALLY ARE GIVEN EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO REMAIN LEGAL AND SETTLE , DIM WIT ! NON-IMMIGRANT, YOU HAD BETTER BE CAREFUL , IF YOU KEEP WRITING CRAP LIKE YOU DO, YOUR HEAD IS GOING TO EXPLODE ! BUT, THEN AGAIN, WHO WOULD NOTICE?
domineaux,
If first of all you need to use a word in order to understand basic english and even after utilizing that you are unable to comprehend simple concepts then I am afraid there is no hope for you.
The english dictionary defines argument as: a discussion in which reasons are advanced for and against some proposition or proposal. To engage in argument through the expression of opposing points of view.
This discussion might not fit into ‘your’ definition of a debate but I am afraid it falls into that category. There are discussions taking place, at all levels within and outside the U.S regarding this subject, between people with opposing opinions. Hope that helped clear the muddiness in your thought process.
DOMINEAUX,I WOULDN’T WASTE MY TIME WITH NON-IMMIGRANT,HE OR SHE IS NOTHING MORE THAN A SELF IMPORTANT BLOWHARD WHO HAS NOTHING OF RELEVANCE TO OFFER, AND PROBABLY FROM A PISSANT EUROPEAN COUNTRY WHERE THEY CONSTANTLY SIT IN JUDGEMENT OF THE UNITED STATES ,WHEN THEY SHOULD BE WORRYING ABOUT THEIR OWN SORRY LOT.
I got news for you Domineaux and Jerry. The U.S is about to pass an immigration reform where all “illegals” as you love to call them, will become citizens and there is nothing you can do to stop it. what do you think of that?
Lizzie PO PO , I used to work with a bitch named Liz, and she’s dead now.
She had a loud mouth on her just like you do. Well let’s see , the long legged mack daddy hasn’t been able to do anything about the illegals getting amnesty yet , has HE ? nope , and he isn’t going to . He’s just flapping his lips.
Liz said, “I got news for you Domineaux and Jerry.”
Well, if it that does happen all it means is the illegal immigrants just get less of a country just like we do. In fact, they will get to participate by paying taxes. The American Gestapo (IRS) ain’t like the Border Patrol. They get the job done.
The stupid part is the illegal immigrants own “wonderful countries” have totally ignored and deserted them. The extremely igorant part is… they don’t get off their ass when they get here to actually take part in the American dream.
I personally know many legal immigrants that haven’t taken the initiative to get off their butts to learn the language and they’ve been here up to 20+ years.
I’m sure the ignorant illegal immigrants can grunt their way around to collect welfare and take advantage of social services. They’ll just be healthy and poor as dirt, their kids are too stupid to graduate high school. Sounds like their part of the American dream will be minimalist at best .
Working hard isn’t the way to the American Dream, driving trucks, picking strawberries, and mowing grass don’t get it. The mystical ingredient is to be well educated and intelligent to know what’s actually going on around you, not what you’re being told to do.
Even if illegal immigrants do get it handed to them. They’ll have to get off their dumb assess, learn the language, and take advantage of educational opportunity. This is not their current pattern in America.
The Mexican’s own people use the mass media to keep them ignorant by keeping them a closed society. There is no influence for them to learn English or work smart to be a part of American society. They’ll just continue to be dumb beaners doing the worst jobs.
They’ll get to pay taxes, which pay for all the services other invading illegal immigrants will take advantage of. They’ll get to vote for Senators and Congressmen that totally ignore whatever their constituents actually want.
The fact is they’ll get to participate in the “screwing’, we current American citizens enjoy on a regular basis. They’ll get to grind their teeth when “their” new country pays for all kinds of benefits to non-citizens. If Amnesty is awarded there will be a increased flood of millions of illegal immigrants.
When you’re poor, uneducated, don’t eat regularly, live in a cardboard box in Mexico City… I can see where America’s taxpayers getting a screwing means little or nothing to you.
If America wants to help itself, it has to do something about it. If there is no resolve to solve the problem, it’ll just get bigger.
I don’t hate illegal immigrants, nor do I blame them. I always felt America denied Mexico and could have done alot more for good neighbors from Mexico. The American governments stupid response was to allow American business to exploit Mexicans. It just evolved to where Maceladora plants were no longer needed. Let the Mexicans cross the border to work in American plants. This way there are less problems for everyone.
Business has one goal “make money” and govenment has to take inititatives to keep business in line to provide for goals of the people it serves and business, not ignore one and benefit the other.
YOU’RE RIGHT LIZ, I DO CALL THEM ILLEGAL, BECAUSE THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE,AND THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS ALSO CALL THEM “ILLEGAL”, BUT OF COURSE THERE’S NO USE IN TRYING TO CONVINCE SOMEONE OF YOUR OBVIOUSLY LIMITED CAPACITY FOR REASON. BUT, ILLEGALS DO SERVE A PURPOSE, WHILE I AM CONCENTRATING ON GETTING RID OF THEM , TOLERATING MORONS LIKE YOU IS A LOT LESS STRESSFUL .
When I hear the politicians say,” We’ve got 10 or 12 million of them here now, how are you going to deport that many people?”
I say… a step at a time. They didn’t come in a day, and who cares if they don’t leave immediately. Deportation of illegals can be a humane steady process, as it is now, on a larger scale.
If tough sanctions were placed on employers requiring them to provide health care insurance for all illegals, taxes charged to employers for payment of social services, i.e., medical and education. Illegals would NOT be attractive employees.
Business doesn’t care about American citizens who have to pay the taxes to provide the enormous social benefits illegal aliens take advantage of. Business is interested only to make money. The prerogatives for business and American citizens is cross purpose.
Governments role is supposed to be in line with the prerogatives of the people not business. America’s government is tyrannical when it doesn’t respond and ignores the the will of the people.
If this thing treatment of illegal immigrants goes down contrary to the will of the people, it will be a hard first step to anarchy in America. The illegals will continue to pour across our porous borders in record numbers, far above anything we’ve seen if America’s congress creates an amnesty bill.
There are people all over the world who would jump at any chance to come to America. Wake up! America. They are dying in our deserts, in the waters surrounding our country, in the back of covered trailers, etc. This is a vehemence that can’t be equated with taking a little trip. These people are desperate for a better life, and all they can see is America.
Illegal immigration is more than immigration, it is an invasion of America by any one who can muster the guts to go for it.
Ignorance and poverty are like introducing mud into clear water. It doesn’t take alot of mud to make all the water muddy. Illegal immigration will not make America better, it will only make business richer to the detriment of our people.
Wake Up! The population of the world is growing by enormous numbers and many countries can no longer provide an adequate life for their citizens. Desperation will drive hungry, poverty striken and ignorant people to America by the millions.
Wake Up Americans your government is selling you out.
Regardless of what anyone says, at the end of the day:
Illegal is illegal. Our nation is founded and based on laws. Breaking the law isn’t a good start for “demanding” citizenship. I see plenty of Mexican immigrants on tv holding signs demanding immigration rights. Well, heres a news flash, immigrants do have rights when they go through the process legally. Look at it as though you waived your “immigrant rights” when you entered our country illegal.
And finally, in response to LAZY AMERICANS,
Who the hell do you think built America into what it is? Who do you think was doing those jobs before you? Americans! Even the wave of immigrants in the late 1800′s and early 1900′s were legal. First stop when they arrived: Ellis Island to complete proper documentation. When the Middle Eastern and Asian waves came in the 50′s – 80′s, they came legally. Mexicans are the illegal majority with disregard for the American immigration legal process.
Someone mentioned the American economy would drop if we sent all the Mexicans back. Sure it would, for a while. But then all of the unemployed and seeking work Americans would fill them and the economy would pick back up. The difference in now and 10 years ago, is that I hear an abundance of teenagers say they can’t find jobs (predominately in fast food, or low skilled jobs). Well that’s because illegals are there and willing to do it for less money as long as it’s in cash and under the table.
Quit mooching off of our system. Go back to Mexico and reapply. And take your Mexican flags with you. If you love Mexico so much, then what the hell are you doing here? The only day you fly the American flag is when you protest. The rest of the time it’s the Mexican flag on your Ford F-150 that says Rodriguez across the window.
Reapply and I’ll see you when you’re legal.
Wayne, you said it right. Why do these stupid illegals think America will fall if they leave ? Who was doing the jobs they are stealing from us now before they came bombarding us ? I did those jobs, my mother did those jobs. But you can’t convince an illegal cockroach anything, nor can you convince a cock roach lover anything. Good luck on trying. I used to live in an apartment building with cock roaches. Pest control told all of us that lived there, QUIT LEAVING FOOD OUT FOR THE ROACHES AND THEY WILL LEAVE . That’s what we need to do. Quit feeding the illegals. They would have no choice but to go back to their own country. And we would not have to pay deportation bills.
Wait did I say “reapply”. I’m sorry, I meant APPLY.
Sad but true
The illegals could care less about Americans or our country. They simply want what they can get. They don’t care if they undermine or destroy the very fabric this country was built upon.
These are people that should not be here. They’re thieves stealing jobs, social services and taking everything they can with absolutely no regard for who is paying what they’re stealing.
Business interests have prevailed upon our government to allow illegals into our country. Business is the reason for this huge problem, and a government that has allied itself with business instead of the people.
Our government must step up an deal with business. There is plenty that can be done to curb the appetite of business for cheap labor by government legislation. Business is fine when it’s kept in line.
Our government doesn’t enforce the current immigration laws or protect our borders. Who in his right mind thinks the government is going to enforce any new immigration laws?
Our government will pass legislation to appease the people. If the legislation is contrary to business interests there will be no enforcement of anything restrictive.
American citizens aren’t in the streets making noise and demonstrations. It’s a lousy as hell commentary. If anything is going to get done about illegal immigration American citizens are going to have to get on the streets and make noise and demonstrate. Makes me mad as heck to think the only way to express your vehemence about this issue cannot be handled at the polls. It is going to take physical walking on the streets, waving banners, making every kind of noise in demonstrations. The mass media will love it. The media loves crime, blood, fires, anguish, grief, and everything immaginable that has an emotional imperative.
We have an elected government that is supposed to represent the people, they hear us, and are not going to act without “extreme pressure” from the people.
Face it, our government is cross purpose with the goals of the American people and after we elect them they could care less about what their constituents want.
Personally, I hate the idea of having to demonstrate on the streets, afterall I do have government that is supposed to represent me.
Look up the definition for Tyranny. I think you’ll find our government fits all the criteria for tyranny. If our government forces the people to the streets in demonstration as a result of their tyrannical positions on issues against the will of the people they are taking first steps to serious interventions by the people.
Whatever you do don’t let the government take away your right to bear arms. I never would have believed our government would be so unresponsive to the will of the people. We always want to be able to protect ourselves from a tryrannical government, if pushing turns to shoving.
I do believe there are a “few”elected officials who actually do care about the will of the people.
viva mexico!!
Liz is a slut.
I love my illegal immigrant friends!!! they are my friends and they are Gods children, God loves them. I will help them with the help of God. And with the help of Gods angels that are among us , my friends will thrive and make a living with jobs given to them by americans and legal immigrants and (people who love them) They are loveable and kind and my friends… just because you dont know the language and dont understand what they are saying…. we all know Gods word. My friends are good people who believe in only One God. the same God that you and I worship and Love. hey, look in the mirror and ask yourself why you hate so much.
Martha , quit smoking that wacky weed that your illegal scum bag friends are giving to you. Now if you like that Mexican D#@K that’s your business. I just don’t want to have to keep all you people up. I used to be a slut like you and LIz and I used to sleep with them, but I got some sense knocked into me . NOthing but whitey for me from here on.
everytime you go out to eat expect there to be illegal immigrants preparing your food!!!! I bet you eat it and like it!!!!!!!!!!! restaurants love to hire them because they work very very hard they appreciate their jobs and they dont call off alot like most americans!!! it seems to me that maybe the illegal immigrants are healthier and stronger than americans, why else do they get the jobs that americans get. I know of a restaurant that mostly illegals and that place is so busy and doing well and the food is great and the place is very clean. and it has high turnover because of the americans. the illegals are there to stay, they can handle the pressure of restaurant business and obviously some of the americans cant thats why they call off and quit and dont want to clean the filters above the grill. Hey , my friend miguel will clean up the restaurant that americans dont want to do it because he is not lazy at ALL!!!!!!!
The Hispanics I work with all lazy…..they pretend they don’t understand English when it suits their needs…..they know what “BREAK” is though…..they are bossy, rude and insubordinate and I hate working with them.
Martha you people are a burden to the American taxpayer….you are freeloaders…….this is our country we don’t need or want you here and we are sick and tired of paying for your ass.
UM let’s see why are illegals healthier than Americans ? well Duh ???
could it be the fact that they are getting free food and free health care ?
Martha are you blond ? you act like a ding bat.
Martha is dilly dallying with Miguel. I’ll tell ya what Martha, leave that Mexican D43K alone baby, and go get you some white stuff. You will forget all about those mexicans. Ain’t nothing like white men.
martha
When I read junk like yours I realize just how ignorant Mexicans are.
You may be here in America, but you’re still dumb as dirt. LOL
Martha,my dear uneducated friend,i don’t eat at restaurants where illegals prepare the food ,since they no nothing of hygiene,and mexican doo doo winds up in your food,but since you’re obviously mexican,you probably enjoy the flavor.
Do you honestly think that illegals are the saviors of America? If that were the case,then why is
mexico such a stinking, backward,craphole?
Domineaux,if you’re bored with this site, then google”illegals gunned down”and open “topix”. I think you’ll like it better than this one.
you stupid americanos you don’t now what your say mexicans rock!!!!!!!!!
No Mexicans throw rocks at border patrol, then when they get shot, they sue the hell out of the country that feeds them. dumber than shit.
Hey pedro, learn to spell moron.
BTW, GET YOUR SORRY ASS OUT OF OUR COUNTRY.
Wow, I was just here to get some information for a report I’m doing on border issues and couldn’t help but to see all the comments related to this topic.
First off, the very first question I have, is how old are all of you? Seriously, you’re acting like a bunch of five year olds. You’re not letting any reasoning but your own move you to any one side/cause.
Your conversation has completely crossed the line (no pun intended), these comments started off by trying to remain unprejudiced, but your conversation has turned completely racist. This is how wars are started! You people will be the reason these years could possibly be looked back on in shame. Will we need a war for every issue of race? One for blacks, one for asians, now one for latinos?! Has history taught you all nothing. It is true that there are issues with the economy, issues with terrorism even, but the terrorist threats can come from anywhere. KNOWN terrorist have even come out of Canada, you don’t see a fight for a wall up there.
Your conversation has spiraled into something that proves that racism is a key component in the border issues and this ominous sign is not comforting.
Now, yes, you can argue all you want about the fact that the illegal immigrants are infact breaking laws and need to be taken away. But it’s not like that is not happening, it is. It’s just not happening as much as some people would like to see it, given the fact that America is dealing with a lot of issues right now, it needs to be seen that somehow removing/ relocating all illegal immigrants back to their country will not solve anything. They are obviously coming over here for a reason. To solve this problem, it needs to be looked at in a bigger way. For all the amount of money America is willing to spend on the wall and now these claims of America using resources to support the illegal immigrants, maybe it needs to be seen that America should perhaps help the Mexican government to re-establish it’s economy so less illegal immigration would occur. Or maybe if America found a way to internally support all immigrants or make it easier for them to become American citizens.
Now here is a question you all should answer, especially you Jerry, to determine whether this issue has become racist. If suddenly, America made it easier for legal immigration and citizenship, and all the immigrants who have crossed the border today and all who would in the future would become legal American citizens, would you be okay with immigration then? Otherwise maybe it’s the numbers that scare you. Who knows, but it’s an interesting concept. Think about it, take a second.
America should help the Mexican government re-establish it’s economy ?
Good God we have another moron on here. Will all you women sleeping with illegals get your stupid heads screwed on right. You sound just like I did about 30 years ago. Go get you some white men and a light will go off in your little heads. Alyssa, honey , do some living Ok. When you have worked for 30 years to pay taxes , then you lose your job, and you go to the welfare office to get some help, YOU won’t get it if you are an American citizen . I would like to hear your opinion THEN. After you have lived a while. I used to be JUST LIKE YOU. Always taking up for them. After witnessing for myself that crimes they commit and then brag about it, I did some re-thinking. I don’t sleep with them any more.
All you women fighting for their cause, you are being deceived by those Latin lovers. LIke I said, Go get a whitey if he will have ya. I did , and it was the best move I ever made.
I must ask Teresa the name of the university that awarder her a master’s degree?
It is embarrassing to see so many misspelled words and grammatical errors from a person so well educated. You set a poor example for those immigrants who aspire to be educated.
Illegal means they have done something illegal. Crossing into any soverign country with out proper legal documentation is illegal. For you people that don’t understand what that means… illegal means breaking the law.
Therefore, why should anyone pay any attention or offer any benefits to persons that are breaking the law.
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We have immigration laws now, but they are not being enforced. No one working for our government in the capacity of law enforcement has the authority to not enforce the law. American laws on immigration were made into law by the highest authority in our country, the U.S.Congress and signed into law by the President of the United States.
Neither the President or any other enforcement agency has the authority to not enforce our laws. The U.S. Attorney general, FBI, ICE are compelled by law to enforce and prosecute anyone breaking our laws. This is not being done and the American people should be screaming “Tyranny” not trying to create new worthless laws.
Worthless laws, because if we the American people do not hold our government responsible to enforce our laws nothing will change. New laws will mean more confusion and less enforcement.
Even a complete fool who reads American newspapers knows the way to accomplish anything of social value for your special interest group is to do two things…
Demonstrate on the streets and twist everything you can to infer persecution, such as, racism.
So all the comments above about racism above are from stupid people trying to find a persecution niche.
First of all David, what good does it do to point out that Teresa is lying if she is infact lying? I don’t understand where you are going with that at all. It’s unnecessary.
Secondly, Domineaux, it may be true that the race card may be played in situations where it doesn’t apply, but you have proven yourself that this is not one of them.
And I quote…
domineaux (13:13:14) :
martha
When I read junk like yours I realize just how ignorant Mexicans are.
You may be here in America, but you’re still dumb as dirt. LOL
racism:
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
or one that suits your statement better
discrimination
This topic is bigger than anyone of us wants to admit. This topic has so many levels to it, and goes back to the very beginning of the discovery of the U.S. We claimed land that wasn’t even ours, WE were immigrants to this country we now call our own. America has certaintly made a name for itself and no one argues the fact that we govern this country, but why? That’s why it seems so ridiculous that now we are going to tell other people that they can’t cross over into OUR land because we can’t handle them right now. It’s hypocritical in more than one way.
This being also because we fought Mexico to gain the land it once controlled. The borderline we have today was not always ours.
Yes it is true that America needs to reorganize itself right now, and perhaps be spending it’s resources on fewer people, but not in a way to harm its future. It’s never smart to have bad relations with your neighbors.
All of this may sound extremely hippie-ish, and I acutally hate a piece of myself for it, but nontheless, it is true.
Yes and we are going to fight them again. The ones of us who LOVE this country are not simply going to just sit back and watch it being demolished.
So you Miss Alyssa are going to have to decide what side of the fence you are going to be on . When someone in your family gets murdered by them ,I would like to hear your opinion then.
I’ve been reading back over parts of the conversation/debate/arguement (whatever you want to call this), and I have to respond truthfully, which is that Domineaux, I honestly don’t disagree with some parts of what you are saying. You make good points and most of the time I respect the tact that they are given with. (…most of the time). However I have to reply to this comment, that I think you made.
“Working hard isn’t the way to the American Dream, driving trucks, picking strawberries, and mowing grass don’t get it. The mystical ingredient is to be well educated and intelligent to know what’s actually going on around you, not what you’re being told to do.”
Response: I feel that the “American Dream” takes on a different definition for the immigrants, and that it is not one that we, who were brought up in a society that expects mans’ reach to exceed his grasp, might think it to be. Mexico is listed number 45 out of 187 countries in order of highest average income. United States is number 6. For the immigrants crossing the border this automatically raises that persons income tenfold. That gives them enough incentive to actually cross the border. Now this makes me feel that the “American Dream” to them, is just to live a better life than the one that they were living. It doesn’t have to be the best life by your “American Dream” standards. What might seem like extremely low payments that they recieve that cheat us Americans out of jobs are actually a lot higher than what they would be receiving in Mexico. And here’s a real shocker, “under the NAFTA goods are free to flow with the push and pull of open markets while people are not” so American business’ are actually going over the border and charging Mexicans even lower rates than they do in America. This gives them more incentive to cross the border as well, because the immigrants know that they’ll get more than some business’ are trying to cheat them out of. Almost like sharecropping really, because it keeps them in constant debt. Now who is screwing who over. I honestly didn’t like that information, it’s disturbing to know about some of America’s relations, but it’s the truth.
The only one living the American dream TOOTS are the illegals.
Alyssa
It’s not just about jobs.
Property owners are being forced to pay the exorbitant costs of services for illegals. I own several properties in my home town and my tax appraisals on those properties have doubled in the past (1) year. My rents are in doubt at the current rates, because of the economy. I should double my rents, but that is not possible. The renters I have are small businesses how can they pass on a doubling of rent costs to their customers?
The reason the taxes are doubled is because the City and County don’t have enough money to fund the service burden the illegal aliens have placed on our community.
Property taxes are the principal funding vehicle for payment of services taken advantage of by illegal immigrants, medical care, education costs, community services, and welfare payments.
If employers working illegal immigrants were just required to furnish health insurance and pay a pro-rata portion of education costs of their illegal aliens the illegal workers would be too expensive to employ.
It’s not just illegal immigrants taking advantage of taxpaying citizens. The American Employers of these illegals are exploiting American citizens to subsidize their profits.
Property taxes is the most powerful leverage governments have to make people pay their taxes. If you don’t pay the taxes the government can take your property.
If you don’t have any property and you’re living at subsistence level on welfare, entitlements and other handouts you’ll never care whether the illegals cause a burden or not.
Responsible, property owning, voting citizens know what it costs to make it in this country. If you rent an apartment you’re paying taxes through the property owner, but multiple numbers of people living and paying taxes on single family dwelling tax rates are thieves.
It is not uncommon for six to eight families of illegal aliens to live in a single family dwelling. They are thieves, because the tax basis for single family dwellings are the lowest possible rates meant only for one family to pay taxes for their one family residing in the residence.
It is now normal in many cities across America for one person with some credit to buy a single family dwelling and then all occupants combined pay the mortgage.
The single family residence tax treatment was designed to help Americans have and own a home in America.
Remember, Cities, Counties, School and Hospital districts make their budgets and the tax authorities manuever the appraisals and tax rates to meet those budget requirments. As long as services to illegals are compulsory and continue to increase, compulsory additional taxes will be assessed.
First, I really enjoy being called “anglo.” It’s such a wonderfully racist term adopted by the la raza/chicano/mexicano turds. Even more amusing is that they use the term assuming that because my skin is white and I speak English I must be an anglo. What a fine example of ignorance.
Secondly, my wife is Panamanian. She’s had the misfortune of working in mexico. She is quite fond of reminding me of how the rest of Latin America cannot stand mexicans. They are viewed as ignorant, arrogant and lazy. She often tells me how awful their Spanish is. As for mexican immigration, we have spent many hours dealing with greedy lying immigration officials so that she can get an FM3 visa. What really makes me laugh though is when she tells me how the company she works for cannot find enough skilled mexicans to work the oil fields in the gulf of mexico. To have illegals here demanding entitlements so they can do jobs we “lazy anglos” won’t do is galling considering the grief she puts up with to do a job that the mexicans are too ignorant or lazy to do.
Finally, what a bunch of ignorant hypocrites. While the mexican government is pushing for shamnesty here, in their own country they proudly proclaim mexico for mexicans. They engage in this behavior because their number two source of revenue is US dollars going to mexico courtesy of illegals.
jdkchem
Funny thing.. It always amazes me that the Mexican Government is so eager to get rid of their “quality citizens”.
You are right of course about the way Central and South Americans think of Mexicans.
There is a lot of rhetoric being bantered about by the various “special interests”, favoring amnesty for illegal aliens and most of it equates to extremely poor arguments.
The greatest lie is the way the government hides and disguises the costs of illegal immigration. The costs of illegal immigration at the Federal level don’t directly affect American citizens like costs at state and community levels.
Big Ameican companies, multi-national companies, and wealthy special interests want illegal laborers to exploit to increase their profits. Illegals are a windfall for them, because those companies provide no benefits and acquire cheap labor at the expense (taxes) of American cititzens. Effectively, American citizens are subsidizing business and special interests.
Senators and Representatives to Congress get their principal campaign funding from Big American companies, multi-national companies, and other special interests. The lobbyists for these special interests are so powerful they actually write and draft legislation for Congress. The lobbyists then campaign vigorously through a myriad of their pervasive influence mechanisms with the Congress do everything possible to make the legislation they drafted into law. — This is WRONG!
The monied interests in America are trying to prevail on the legalization of the illegal invaders. The monied interests care about one thing…the money. They don’t care if Americans pay the costs for the illegal immigrants by taxation or loss of jobs. The monied interests don’t care about America, or it’s citizens.
The American Congress continues to lie to their constituents and promotes legislation that is harmful to Americans… This is WRONG!
I’ve been listening to Illegal Immigration Senate debates on CSPAN, and it is amazing that those so-called intelligent senators can get up before the Senate on national TV and spew out such abject ignorant arguments. Those senators have sold out the American people to special interests. This is WRONG!
Our Congress is empowered by the American people to preserve and protect the interests of the American people. Every Senator or Representative to our congress should be voted out of office at the first opportunity when they vote and speak for legislation that is contrary to the best interests of the American people…
Senator Kyl pulled the wool over his constituents by his lies. I saw and heard him on Lou Dobbs, an outspoken opponent of illegal immigration. After he was elected he joined up with Kennedy and McCain in pushing for the “great compromise”. If I were one of his voters… I be raising hell about that lying SOB.
What a joke these law breaking illegal scum are! With their felony S.S. fraud and false I.D.s. They go from this poor me all I want to do is work here, to we are all just victims of you American racist-to we hate your damn guts and are going to take this country away from you! Just let me tell you one thing my stupid friends, bring it on! If you think we are going to give it all up without a real fight-you are a whole lot crazyer then you think we are!!!
Please inform me as to why I should have to pay for someone else to have the things I work hard for everyday?
Where or what can I do to fight against the fllod of Mexicans coming into our country? I want to do something to help
First of all in order to stop immigration, those who are American by birth must choose to work in the fast food establishments, the local department stores, plow the fields, pick the crops, clean homes etc… They must also choose to be drug free instead of hypocritical.
We need to stop buying Mexican products and Mexican food since there are so many Taquerias filled with Caucasian American customers.
America is full of Caucasian natives addicted to drugs, of course Mexicans are going to sell drugs here, it’s all about supply and demand!
When complaining about the illegals speaking a different language please be able to converse in your native language without typographical errors and problems with sentence structure.
While we’re at it please let’s close the borders to the Nigerians, Russians, Jamaicans, British, candaians, Norwegians, Irish, Scottish, Italians and all the other nationalities that come through.
If we choose to pick out one group of people then we should stand by what we claim to believe and close ourselves off entirely otherwise it falls on deaf ears.
Don’t be hypocrites, unless you’re willing to be the change you want to see your opinion is lame.
Oh Jesus , here we go AGAIN. Monica another mexican loving slut.
this is just a waste of time. Every damned person on here that is taking up for the illegals are stupid women in love with them.
Monica, how damned old are you ? I am old enough to remember the time BEFORE THEY CAME HERE, demanding every thing. car insurance was cheap and affordable. Healthcare was affordable. now we have to keep them up, because of women like you being in love with them. I’m off of here.
To ALL Elected Officials:
280 Million (78%) of the USA LEGAL Population, Are Opposed to the Legislation trying to be passed right now.
Illegal is Illegal. Period. We have laws in place for a reason. OUR GOVERNMENT NEEDS ENFORCE THEM. They are our elected officials and have taken an oath to protect this great nation and by voting on the Immigration and Opportunity Act of 2007, they are in direct violation of our laws. Any “Yes” vote puts every American citizen and legal guest at danger and any elected official who votes for any portion of this bill is a traitor to this great nation by adhering to our enemies (illegal invaders) through giving them aid and comfort.
Congress does not need a 326+ page bill to enact the following, IMMEDIATELY:
#1 — Secure our borders. As first priority, America must stop the flow of illegal immigration by investing all necessary resources in securing our borders. Also, existing immigration laws must be enforced as an essential component of our Homeland Security.
#2 — No Amnesty. Oppose any form of amnesty for illegal aliens, including the “temporary worker” proposal or any proposals that grant legal residency status or citizenship to illegal aliens.
#3 — Aggressive deportation. Immediate investment in aggressive effort to deport the 12 million illegal immigrants currently within our borders – if you’re caught, you are sent back.
#4 — No benefits. Erect a wall of separation between illegal aliens (their children, family and extended families) and tax-dollar paid benefits reserved for U.S. citizens and legal aliens. I support H.R. 418 that prohibits illegal aliens from being issued drivers licenses and prevents terrorists from abusing the asylum laws of the United States.
#5 — No work. Stricter punishment of U.S. businesses that knowingly employ illegal aliens. Establish national database of legal immigrants to assist both public and private sectors in this effort.
#6 — English first. Legislation that establishes English as the required and preeminent language throughout the United States. Public and private sectors cannot be required to provide services in alternative languages.
#7 — No Birthright Citizenship. Illegal’s flood to the U.S. simply to have babies—which are then granted citizenship. Changing the current law is certain to curtail the illegal traffic.
Please make it known – Those who are here by obeying the laws we have in place are undoubtedly more than welcome. Those who come to America to be apart of our culture and society, thereby assimilating themselves into America is welcome. Those who want to come and still maintain an allegiance to another country and those who come here illegally can get the HELL OUT. YOU ARE NOT WELCOME.
Watch CSPAN2 those U.S.Senators stand up there in the hallowed halls of our great senate chambers and mock the great founders of our country and citizens.
Those lying, deceiving hypocrits need their butts kicked out of office. I’ll bet most of them including George Bush Jr. are an offense to their parents.
Whenever I hear that cocky GBJr I regret any affiliation with the Republican party. The man stinks, and his administration is tyrannical.
It is depressing to think we can no longer trust our elected officials serve and protect the interests of the American people. All you have to do is watch CSPAN.
Lou Dobbs each day points out another government debaucle that is doing great harm to our country. I wonder to myself, just how long the great harm being done can persist.
Illegal Immigration is just one tip on the great iceberg of government tyranny.
I’m voting libertarian, or anything but Democratic or Republican.
There is only one way the two party system will get my attention as a viable goevernment entity. When they listen to the people. When they protect our border and respect the laws created by their own predecessors by enforcing the laws we currently have.
Monica…
You’re funny. We could throw out all the illegals and we’d do fine.
I’ve got Mexicans so stupid they mow my grass once a week for a whole year for less than I can buy a cheap lawnmower at Wal-Mart, and they supply all the gas, leaf blowers, edgers, etc.
They aren’t making zip. If they paid Social Security taxes, the taxes would be more than they’re making.
If the Immigration bill passes… I know a bunch of businessmen just licking their chops to legally hire all those cheap working mexicans. That bill is not going to do zip for illegals, and they’re marching the streets thinking they’re going to get something. LOL
They don’t realize that the same government they’re counting on to give them something is the same government that is screwing the American citizens (the ones that vote). They’ll just get to be second class citizens in the world class screwing they’re going to get.
Forrest Gump said it, ” Stupid is as stupid does”.
Illegal immigrants children get free school meals and free schooling. They just waste their time, because they don’t graduate or care about learning or speaking English. They’ll always be second class citizens listening to their Mariachi music for generations unless they realize they must speak English to get anywhere in this country. If I moved to Mexico I’d learn to speak Mexican “Pronto”. I wouldn’t want to depend on others to help me get ahead and continue to be taken advantage of by people.
I don’t have enough exposure to Mexicans to need to know the language, but I would darn sure learn it if my living depended upon it. Heck, it’s just words.
The Mexican speaking TV keeps Mexicans dumb and a servant to the Univison TV stations. All the stupid Mexicans are doing is keeping themselves in the poverty rut, easy to exploit… especially by their own people who are bi-lingual.
Illegal Immigration is bad for everyone, and the end result whether the Amnesty is passed or not still won’t do anything for illegals. The illegals will get to pay taxes, taxes and more taxes. They’ll have pay for insurance and social services. When the government knows who and where they are, they’ll get reamed just like current American citizens do.
Illegals are actually doing better right now financially than they will as legal citizens. You have to make a great deal of money now just to pay taxes and most of the current illegals won’t be able to cut that cheese. They may be citizens, but they’ll still be living just like they do now. They may be able to go to work, but they’ll have less.
Now illegals are not part of all the administration, taxation, and laws that keep us poor citizens grinding it out. They’re currently enjoying a great deal for their level of contribution. The democratic party is in the tank, and the republicans are right behing them. Both parties are trying to create more voters and they think they can endear themselves to Mexicans just like the democrats did with American Blacks. They both want to be known as the party that helped the Mexicans.
It’s all hypocrisy and lies, neither party cares about anything but the monied special interests that are eating the heart out of our great country.
Pssst. I’m gonna hire me a cheap working illegal among the dozens that are hanging out at the paint store to paint the outside of my house. I’ll get it done for just about what I’d have to pay for the paint. The reason is… I can’t buy the paint as cheap as the Mexican, because the Mexican paints all the time and the store will give him a large discount. The Mexican will be too stupid to realize how cheap he is working. LOL
I speak enough Mexican to tell him what I want and how to do it. I’ll be singing Mariachi music all the way to the bank.
Do you think I’m taking advantage of people? Well, they did double the appraisal on my propery this year to accomdate all the social services, i.e., free school lunches, free education, free medical care, free baby delivery, etc. and I’ve got to offset the new taxes I’m being charged to pay for all that.
What a load of crap! History sure does repeat itself. You bigots are spewing the same filth and xenophobia shown during previous eras.
The same dung flowed about blacks, italians, jews, irish, chinese and
even native americans. Just who is more American? Define the term.
My ancestors fought in the revolutionary war to create freedom for
ALL people. Do I consider myself any more American than others?
NO! I, for one, have worked with many Mexican immigrants and find them to be decent, intelligent, hard-working individuals. You racists ought to be ashamed of yourselves. You know who you are. If there is a judgement day you’d better be afraid…very afraid.
and I have worked with Illegals and all they do is bitch and complain. The last job I had , they refused to do when I left because they said it was too much work and not enough pay.
sTeve is a mexican lovin slut.
The issue is… they are here illegally in America, therefore they are criminals when they cross our borders. If you or I crossed into Mexico to work without going through proper legal channels we would be illegal. As I understand it, we would also be criminals and the government of Mexico would put us in prison.
90% of the illegal aliens in America are Mexican. So naturally they should have special verbal treatment in discussions. It’s not about race, even though race is discussed or often mentioned crudely.
You know they have decent hard working people in Africa in countries like Ghana, Nigeria, Zaire, etc. No one disputes that Mexicans are not decent hard working people for the most part. In Africa there is little sovereignty of nations, as the borders between countries are so porous. This also means people just go where they want. Citizenship doesn’t mean much. When everyone is living in poverty, there are no social benefits in any country so people just migrate to where they can make any kind of life for themselves.
If America bordered any African country all their citizens would be in, or trying to get into our country any way possible.
Mexico is a similar situation, but if all those Mexicans we have illegally in this country were in Mexico they would be rioting in the streets like they are beginning to do as it is. We have to protect our borders against illegal immigrant invasions, it’s not about decent hard working, willing people. It’s about having a country.
The core problem – there are too many people in the world to sustain them in many countries. Many of those counties that are able to sustain their own people have corrupt governments and their citizens are still starving.
Most Mexican familes have three children compared to Americans that have one child. There is no constraint on population in Mexico, and they don’t try to constrain their number of children when they come here. This is a serious issue. Sure it produces more voters of Mexican descent, but that is not the issue. Less than 50% of the illegal immigrant children graduate high school, and the level of college graduates is problem not one percentage point.
The level of social services in this country is based on a highly educated productive society. When our population is overwhelmed with an uneducated large population those services will be to exorbitant and our country will no longer provide them. There just won’t be enough money unless we have citizens who pay enough in taxes.
America is faced with enormous competition from abroad, and if we ever needed more educated productive people it is now and in the future.
Just a fact, if people don’t make a good living in a highly productive society they will not earn enough money to pay enough in taxes to maintain a high level of social and government services. That is why countries like Mexico don’t have the social and government services now as we do in America. Sure everyone says Mexico has corrupt government, but they also do not have an educated productive society.
All we are doing by allowing illegal immigrants in is a dumbing down of America, and the prospects are less as each illegal immigrant crosses our border.
Guest worker programs will probably have to be provided, but paths to citizenship has got to tighten up with strict laws for acquiring citizenship or American citizenship will become just about as worthless in time as it is in Africa.
To Domineaux….
You’re preaching to the choir! While you try to make logical arguments, the fact remains that the same points were made about influxes of prior cultures into the U.S. Read your history books.
“but if all those Mexicans we have illegally in this country were in Mexico they would be rioting in the streets like they are beginning to do as it is. We have to protect our borders against illegal immigrant invasions, it’s not about decent hard working, willing people. It’s about having a country.”
That is presumption and solely your opinion. Where is your data to back this up? You talk like this is a war. This country is made up of immigrants or don’t you get it? I haven’t yet found any information leading me to believe that immigration is causing us to ‘lose our country’. I also fail to understand how peaceful demonstration can be construed as ‘riots”.
“Most Mexican familes have three children compared to Americans that have one child. There is no constraint on population in Mexico, and they don’t try to constrain their number of children when they come here.”
I have news for you…there is no constraint on population in the U.S. either. Most Americans I know, who have families, have 2 or 3 children.
So what’s your point?
“The level of social services in this country is based on a highly educated productive society. When our population is overwhelmed with an uneducated large population those services will be to exorbitant and our country will no longer provide them. There just won’t be enough money unless we have citizens who pay enough in taxes.”
Interesting…so when you remove the people doing the jobs that fat, lazy, highly educated (in their own minds) Americans won’t do, who do you get to do those jobs? I doubt you’re going to do it. I’ve personally picked oranges for a sports team fund-raising in high school. It’s not something I would look forward to repeating and I guarantee no one else is going to want to do it. You seem to be under the impression that illegals don’t pay taxes. The greater number of jobs that illegals perform require withholding of taxes just like everyone else. Whether the employer pays those taxes is another issue.
The middle class citizens are the people that pay the lion’s share of taxes in this country. You’d do well to realize that the loss of jobs in this country (and therefore loss in tax base) is the result of greedy large corporate global out-sourcing. Try taking up that crusade and see where you get.
Quite frankly, there are numerous services provided by this country that are mostly abused by citizens. In fact, there many services that are completely uneeded and should be done away with…period.
“Sure everyone says Mexico has corrupt government, but they also do not have an educated productive society.”
You truly believe the U.S. doesn’t have a corrupt government? Or any country for that matter…the only thing that you see is that Mexico’s corruption is more visible. Instead, let’s talk about the destruction of our constitutional rights by the Bush administration. Let’s talk about the continuing manifest destiny that allows our ‘leaders’ to force this country’s will on weaker nations in the name of our ideology. Let’s talk about the failure of our own school systems to properly educate our citizenry (going on a lot longer than immigrant problem). Let’s address the REAL problems in this country without trying to blame them on an easy target.
You people talk about the cost of ‘illegal’ immigration….let’s instead talk about the even higher cost of an ‘illegal’ war fought solely to fund
the industrial military complex. Let’s talk about the ‘illegal’ activities of our elected officials and ponder why, when caught, we still pay their collective retirements.
I could go on but, as a fat, lazy American, I tire. It amazes me that our highly educated, productive citizens are so ignorant.
Steve, the illegals have the same opportunity for education here as white children , yet as soon as they can, they drop out . Wasted tax dollars that could have been spent to send an American kid to college. But you are a fat lazy American liberal no doubt. I think it’s time that they start the draft again so they can send you and put you on the front lines to fight for this country that you hate.
The sad fact is this…We already lost.Its too late to stop the illegal immigration problem now.T he problem with America is this ( WE ARE TO WORRIED ABOUT WHAT EVERYONE ELSE THINKS OF US) The bottom line is this…The only way we are ever gonna take back our country is BY FORCE. If you think all the illegals are just gonna say “ok,we’re leaving now” is gonna happen your crazy.T he question isn’t “IF” a war within is coming,it’s a matter of “when” is it gonna start? It’s inevitable,it will happen sooner or later…
Steve
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I have news for you…there is no constraint on population in the U.S. either. Most Americans I know, who have families, have 2 or 3 children.
So what’s your point?
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The contraints are not compulsory they are cultural. The Mexican people value their wealth in their family until they can’t pay the bills and then they cross the border. LOL
The point is the Mexicans have very large families. The average American family in order to provide a better life for their family has fewer children. This in turn requires less in the way of social services. The costs of education, health services for illegals is totally off the charts and increases as each new illegal comes into this country.
The local communities are strapped for dollars, and they are forcing up appraisals on property to assess higher and higher taxes. The local taxpayers aren’t getting relief.
The end result is the Mexican gets cheap wages and access to social services, which burden the local taxpayers. The local American Taxpayers are subsidizing business profits effectively.
I recently read 1/3 of the people in our prisons are illegal aliens. The average cost of incarceration is 40K per year per person, and those costs are paid by the states and local communities. If those people weren’t in America and they were at home in their country’s prisons that would mean we could have a third less people in our prisons, a third less expenses to imprison criminals. That’s not counting all the misery and econonmic damage done by those illegal aliens before we put them in prison.
If you start reviewing all the issues that provide funds to illegals directly or indirectly it is a monstrous amount of money. The costs continue to rise and if the current batch of 12-20 million illegals are given amnesty we’ll have even more pressure from illegal aliens on our borders.
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You can fuss about the Iraq war and the so-called military machine, but Americans are dying everyday over there at the hands of insurgents and terrorists. This bunch of pussies and fat bellies I see at the malls can’t deal with an enemy that is determined to the point of suicide. Generations of wars being fought in other lands has created a non-caring America. It can’t happen here, but it has. When we leave Iraq as incompetent as our government is the terrorists will ream us.
The only reason they aren’t attacking us now is because Iraq is too important to them. Iraq is the prize and all the middle east knows it. Not that Iraq is such a big deal to us. The terrorists and people that hate us enough to die for it are flocking to Iraq. We are fighting a cowardly enemy and they hate us enough to keep trying to kill us. The terrorists are coming from all over the surrounding arab countries to Iraq to try to kill Americans.
If somehow the Iraqi could actually have a democratic form of government and preserve it the despotic leaders of the surrounding arab states might be in serious jeopardy of overthrow.
When we leave Iraq and the terrorists start their campaigns to wage their war on the streets of America they will bring it to us. Then we’ll all wish our military was dealing with them in Iraq or any place outside America.
The last time they attacked us they did billions of dollars damage to NYC, killed almost as many people as we’ve lost in Iraq since the war started, and cost our country billions… just in the airline industry alone. They did all this in one morning. The damage they could do in this country could be enormous within just a few days.
It is imperative to keep the terrorists focus on our military that is most competent to deal with them. Think about it… our supreme court just ruled to let prisoners in Gitmo defend themselves with our constituional law. Our country doesn’t have what it takes to deal with people that are so barbaric as to chop off heads.
I hate the war in Iraq, I hate it we have men dying daily, but I also hate the prospects of the war being waged inside our country. This country would be an economic shambles in short order, and our courts would still be dictating fairness with the terrorists.
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Steve
Funny you pulled up that old argument about jobs Americans won’t do.
If we didn’t have enough fruit and vegetable pickers someone would invent machines to replace them. The cost of producing those machines is not a better econmic alternative when we have plenty of cheap willing labor. This is America, our people are still intelligent and highly productive there is no doubt it my mind machines could be developed to do the work.
If a robot can build a wrist watch from a handful of parts I’m sure a Strawberry picker could be produced. Seiko has built watches with pick and place (the simplest robots with good software) since the early 1970s. Technology is available now to do just about anything done in the farmers fields. Sure the farmer will have to do some things in preparing his crops to accomodate the robotic machinery, but it can be done.
I’m not opposed to guest workers, that are carefully monitored that go home when the work is done. I don’t feel bad about the work they do. I’ve done plenty of back breaking labor in my life and worked into something better over time.
I’m just not for making citizens of people that don’t go through proper channels to acquire citizenship. We still have the most liberal requirements for legal immigration to America. There is nothing wrong with protecting our border from illegal invasions of people that usurp themselves upon our people and they have no rights. Afterall, they are criminals because they came into the country illegally.
Illegal alien is the correct term and not illegal immigrant. Federal laws are federal laws. Seems simple enough!
People the issue here is that these immigrants whether they be Mexican or whatever are entering the US illegally!! Now is it the US’s problem that the countries these people are coming from are corrupt and do not provide the economy so they could have decent jobs??? I say NO!! And a certain amount of immigration is the way this country was founded. If the Mexicans and so on want to live in the US then learn the language and apply for citizenship and become one. Then fine live and work. But this jumping across the borders and staying is wrong and unlawful!!
How can anyone think coming and staying in this country illegally is okay. It’s ILLEGAL. you break the law when you jump the boarder. you break the law everyday you wake up here. If you want to be part of this country, register with the government (ie. Green Card or working Visa), assimilate to our culture (learn our language and way of life) and pay your taxes. You send your illegal kids to the schools that are supported by taxes. You go to the emergency care clinics that are supported by taxes. You cannot justify being here unless you do it legally. There is no excuse
I’m sick and tired of the “spin” everyone tries to put on this issue by referring to ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION as simply “IMMIGRATION.” There is one Hell of a difference! I don’t know many people (Americans) who resent LEGAL IMMIGRANTS coming to this country as our forefathers did. (through proper channels) But we DO resent the Hell out of these “brown folks” wading across the river at night; digging tunnels to come in; paying border guards and Cayotes to slip them in; and just plain walking in uninvited. It’s also become painfully obvious to many Americans that the Brown folks also bring crime in terms of gangs (M-13) as well as drugs and other contriband. They have no respect for OUR laws and even fly their own Mexican flag in the streets of our cities that LEGAL American citizens have fought for centuries to protect. Moreover, don’t give me that CRAP about “we don’t take your jobs.” In Alabama, many housing contractors and frame carpenters cannot find work due to the fact that unscrupelous employers hire Mexicans at below average wages just to make their scumbag profits. I say, yea, come to American but COME LEGALLY OR DON”T COME AT ALL and above all, Shut the Hell up about your RIGHTS!
When my some of my forefathers came here (I do have some Native American heritage), there were no immigration laws…plain and simple. Since the United States of America DOES have immigration laws now, there is a difference. No one is bitching about LEGAL immigration. It’s the ILLEGALS that, we as a country, are going on and on about. (1)Pay your way, (2)learn the language, (3)don’t involve yourself in crimminal behavior, and I’ll be the first to welcome you to the neighborhood.
1. pay your taxes, health care, etc…stop being a liability to the community, be an asset instead
2. English language, that is
3. Be a legal immigrant, no drugs, driving drunk, stealing, ect…We have enough low life, thuggish individuals (of all colors) that we don’t need to out source for more.
The invading army from Mexico needs to be treated as what it is. This a war and we need to put down the army that is invading and destroying this once proud and once great nation. It’s a sad day when America won’t deal with it’s enemies. The liberals destroyed America by invading the schools and feeding the children who went to the government de-education camps garbage. Those who are fortunate enough to go to private school make up the majority of the select few that think clearly.
1. Numbers do not equal greatness.
2. Racism is the belief that a group of people are genetically inferior based simply on appearance – skin color, or ethnic/geographical origin (a particular gene pool).
No rational person lends any credence to the notion that ethnic Mexicans or other Hispanics are genetically inferior. Just consider the great artists, authors, and athletes – that’s just the “a’s” – from Spanish speaking countries of the western hemisphere.
It took generations for the Mediteranean and Eastern European immigrants to prosper in America and overcome the derogatory connotation assigned to their nationalities by the Wasps – names like Hunky, Guinea, and Polock. There is on glaring difference between the great (as in huge) European migrations and the current influx from the south – those people couldn’t turn back.
They couldn’t wire money to their families in the old country. They couldn’t hop on a bus with their year’s wages and return “home” when jobs became scarce. It was sink or swim – no life preservers, no government safety nets. They managed to embrace America and live by its laws while preserving their heritage and building a legacy. They took their national pride and made it American pride.
Anyone can look at the long list of success stories for people with last names ending in vowels.
Keep it legal, pull your own weight, and build a legacy of character and achievement. Then watch the bigotry and the animosity fade. Welcome to America.
I have just read this entire blog on a 12 hour drive with my girlfriend and I just have to say wow… it seems so simple, come here legally or do not receive the American dream. Receive a one way ticket wherever you came from. Maybe the legal process is tough… know what? TOUGH… that’s the law of this land. Build a fence and when Mike Vick gets outta jail maybe he can train some dogs to stop the illegal invasion. Let Pit Bulls do what they’re bred for.
I just tried reading the drivel that has been written above.
First– I grew up on the border (Douglas, AZ), I’ve seen the problems brought to the US.
Now onto particulars:
–not all anti-illegals are racist bigots On the contrary, most that I have met are very compassionate people towards ALL races. What they are biased against is people who come here ILLEGALLY .
now onto that assinine argument.. “well, unless you’re a native american your ancestors were illegal too”… WRONG. There were NO IMMIGRATION LAWS WHEN MY ANCESTORS ARRIVED. If there isn’t a law, it cant be illegal. For the one group that came here in the 1800′s, they came here LEGALLY. Coming thru a legal port of entry. Remember, we created a country in the 1700′s and started instituting laws at that point.
I do not understand, and someone PLEASE help me.. I really want to know..
With all the natural resources in Mexico, (millions of acres of land that could be used for farms, large supplys of oil, great rivers.. some of the most beautiful land in North America… ) Why cant Mexicans work in their own country?
I also do not understand how Mexico has the cajones to call us racist because of our laws. I think it would be funny if we instituted the exact same laws that Mexico has… If you’re caught, you get thrown in jail for a couple of years, then we find you and then deport your butt.
lastly, what other laws do you think are so trivial that you can ignore?
I just read some of the start of this, and cannot believe the hypocrisy spewing from the “something for nothing” crowd AS WELL AS from the nationalistic crowd. Look, at its root, it’s not an “illegal” issue, it’s a “something for nothing” issue. I will say this: if it weren’t for the burden on the taxpayers, there would be no story, and no traction for the issue. Most people couldn’t care less until the illegal gets into his or her pocket. Now, if the criminal aliens were in fact paying all these taxes and taking nothing in the way of health care, housing grants in the form of HUD subsidized loans and Section 8 housing, etc., then I seriously doubt there’d be any uproar at all.
It’s the bad that ruins it for the good in any scenario. The gang-banging dope-sucking knife-swinging hateful-looking thug-acting chip-on-the-shoulder smartass English-shunning drunk-driving law-breaking gold-ring-and-necklace-wearing tattoo-parlor-patrons with the starched hankies on their heads are ruining it for the honest, hard working craftsmen who come here to bust their butts and provide value for value.
The “do jobs whites won’t do” argument is a straw dog too. Whites won’t do the jobs simply because they have a something for nothing attitude that is as bad as the illegal aliens’ in that they can make more off of shackin’ up with their woman and making kids than working a dishwashing job or pushing a lawnmower. Take away the disincentive to work, take away the “need-based” “benefits” and Americans will jump to do the jobs typically held by illegals.
Yeah, according to convention I’m all over the map. This issue is not divided logically where people are dividing it. It’s very simple:
WHEN the good ol’ US of A decides to quit rewarding laziness and begin to reward production of value, and when the US starts taxing all regardless of the legality of their entry, and levels the playing field without giving the prideless residents–legal or not–a safety net that has become a hammock, then the problem of immigration and resentment will go away.
This country was the greatest in the world when it was a melting pot, each contributing some of his or her own culture to the regional and national image while assimilating into a society where all could communicate and trade without barriers. Now, you see a chunk of Mexico here, a chunk of China there, a glob of Poland in between, a smear of Nicaragua over there, and instead of a melting pot, we now resemble a pool of vomit. What you do with vomit is clean it up and solve the problem that caused the vomit in the first place, and solving that will require cutting up and removing the aforementioned hammock.
domineaux, it’s = it is; incorrect: “…government was doing it’s job….”
correct: “I’ll guarantee you it’s (it is) already happening.” You get an A-.
Adriana…..ooooh, grammar and spelling are too hopeless to correct!
Illegal immigrants are…ILLEGAL.
For those of you who think we should allow this nonsense to continue, or that deporting illegal immigrants is racist – may I ask if that makes the Mexican government and people racist for rounding up Guatemalens at the southern border of Mexico and dumping them back across the border?
We need a SOLID border fence NOW. We need to fingerprint every single person who crosses the border illegally and put that information into a database of people forever prohibited from entering our country again. We need to change our laws such that the whole “anchor baby” concept disappears. We do NOT need another amnesty for illegal aliens. We need to pass a Constitutional amendment making English our official language, and stop wasting money on bilingual ballots (If you can’t assimilate, you have no business voting) and bilingual education. We need to fix the LEGAL immigration system such that people can immigrate into the US in a reasonable time frame…IF they have job skills and have been appropriately vaccinated.
You want to fix this problem? Here’s my solution:
1. Build a REAL border fence…with armed guards…with permission to shoot anyone attempting to cross the border illegally.
2. Abolish the income tax and go to a national sales tax which can ONLY be increased by a 2/3rds majority vote of the population during a presidential election year. (No more dodging taxes by illegals)
3. Constitutional amendment for ‘English Only’ official government operation.
4. Abolish the ‘anchor baby’ clause.
5. Imprison for 10 years and impose a $1 million fine for the CEO of any American company that employs illegal immigrants. No plea bargains allowed.
6. Remove the tax exempt status of any charity, church or religious group that harbors illegal immigrants for the purpose of avoiding deportation.
7. Make a Constitutional amendment requiring valid photo ID to cast your vote in ALL elections. (For crying out loud, you can’t cash a check or use a credit card without a picture ID, so you should be REQUIRED to have one to vote!)
8. Start charging an excise tax on all Mexican trade goods equal to the cost of all medical care, legal expenses and prison costs due to illegal immigrants from Mexico. Impose the same excise tax on other nations as well.
The US is a nation of LEGAL immigrants. The teeming masses that entered this great nation from all across Europe and Asia, (and yes from Mexico too) in a LEGAL fashion and assimilated into the Great Melting Pot of America are the strength and lifeblood of the best nation ever to exist in the history of mankind.
We only want you to come here LEGALLY to participate in the opportunities available only in a free country. We don’t want to listen to you whine and complain about how you have no opportunity in your own country, then break our laws coming here and DEMAND we give you a plethora of handouts paid for by OUR hard work!
Stupid sloganeering and pithy propaganda may work for the illegal immigrant activists for a short time, but once you wake the giant, he tends not to have much patience with pseudointellectual swamp gas and the people who pass it
This is hilarious. We have a group of Mexicans lamenting the harsh US immigration laws that label people as “illegal” when entering this country via unapproved means. What does Mexico do to the Guatemalans crossing Mexico’s southern boarder without proper documentation? They throw them under the prison.
Center for Immigration Studies
We are a country built on immigration, this is true. However, the immigrants coming through Ellis Island had to learn English or they didn’t get a job. If they came over here with disease, guess what, they got put back on the boat and were sent home. They assimilated to our society and were hard working, not just sitting here having litters of children with their hand out. Our current crop of ILLEGAL invaders want to live 20 to a house, throw trash all over the yard, and destroy our communities. They expect everyone to conform to speaking THEIR language and get pissy about it if they’re standing in Walmart and the cashier can’t understand them, usually with their food stamps in hand. I understand they want to get out of their third world crap hole countries and come here to work, but at the same time they seem to want nothing more but to turn the U.S. into another third world dung hole. Also, look at all of the gangs and criminals flooding in here unchecked as well. I’m tired of every day putting on the news and there are more people dead at the hands of these illegal criminals. Let the powers that be try to pass another amnesty bill, the citizens of this country will get the next one shot down too. Our politicians can’t just ignore us on this issue anymore.
Well, this web site was sent to me by an White American friend. It is sad to hear all the comments that I see here. Let me say I am from a Hispanic background, seved this country in the Armed Forces for 22 years as a Grunt/Infantrymen, fought Wars to defend the constituttion of the U.S., got wounded, bled red like my brother’s Americans, Blacks, Mexicans, Japanese, Jamaicans and others that were next to me. we come back to America and the least of our problems that we should be dealing with is the “Mexicans”.
We have so many other problems here that some of you are left in the blind… people lets wake up… Yes, the system is screwed, but is not going to go away any time soon. We need to put in place all this energy on the Americans Wounded in War, the Homeless, The starving families that Lost their homes due to Tornados and other Mother Nature fatalities.
I have my own business and can proudly say I been very lucky and succesful.
As Americans we can not blame the “Mexicans” which I notice are the ones been attacked here, for coming to our country looking for work, finding a new way of life. Regardless of Taxes and other issues. If you drive around any construction facility, who is doing the hard Labor, who is on the TOP of the Roof.
Let’s face it, look at the shirt you are wearing now, where was it made? In China, in Guatemala, in MEXICO !! Ask yourself why ?
The companies doing this T-Shirts who are they? The Americans, they are in MEXICO and CHINA, and in GUATEMALA…. and they are NOT PAYING THE US TAXES !! Everything is PROFIT TO THEM. Now who is at fault here… the MEXICANS or the US GOVERNMENT.
It is not the Mexicans fault, everything starts in our country of origin, how we treat our people. Look at the other races, Cubans, Chinese, Vietnam, Columbians, and the list goes on… I don’t have anything against them, we all do what is necessary to survive. This country would be in so much better shape if we #1 eliminate so much hate, from one race to another.
The sad part is that is not going to end… and we continue to teach our children… our future leaders, hate, disobedience, to evaluate a book by the cover and not content.
Let’s focus away from the Illegal immigrants “The Mexicans”…. How about our Homeless problem, How about Welfare, How about our older people needing special care but if they don’t have $$$ they are not allowed in the Hospitals or Old Folks Homes. (That is not the Mexicans fault or any other immigrant Alien… is the Government we have to deal with) They have the money but want to spend that $$$ in Space, repairing Iraq, things of non importance.
I don’t have a problem with people in need using Government funded resourses, but when you see someone drive up to a Food Stamp / Food Collection Point driving an Escalate with 24″ size wheels and the Ride is all pimped out “NOT A MEXICAN” something is wrong with that picture.
Let’s not Blame the Race, blame the system. If any of Us Americans happen to be in this Country and things are getting to the point that we would not be able to survive by feeding and providing shelter to our loved ones,…… We / You would be looking for a way to JUMP THE FENCE.
Yes, we are proud of our country, but if your country is not helping or looking after your well been, YOU as a responsible and willing to succed human will do all the necessary movements to survive.
So in that note, take all this writings and let the Government hear you, but you know what they are going to do with it… Is going to end in the Shred.
Good luck to all of you, I am proud of be Hispanic heritage and to be also an American.
Well, this web site was sent to me by an White American friend. It is sad to hear all the comments that I see here. Let me say I am from a Hispanic background, seved this country in the Armed Forces for 22 years as a Grunt/Infantrymen, fought Wars to defend the constituttion of the U.S., got wounded, bled red like my brother’s Americans, Blacks, Mexicans, Japanese, Jamaicans and others that were next to me. we come back to America and the least of our problems that we should be dealing with is the “Mexicans”.
We have so many other problems here that some of you are left in the blind… people lets wake up… Yes, the system is screwed, but is not going to go away any time soon. We need to put in place all this energy on the Americans Wounded in War, the Homeless, The starving families that Lost their homes due to Tornados and other Mother Nature fatalities.
I have my own business and can proudly say I been very lucky and succesful.
As Americans we can not blame the “Mexicans” which I notice are the ones been attacked here, for coming to our country looking for work, finding a new way of life. Regardless of Taxes and other issues. If you drive around any construction facility, who is doing the hard Labor, who is on the TOP of the Roof.
Let’s face it, look at the shirt you are wearing now, where was it made? In China, in Guatemala, in MEXICO !! Ask yourself why ?
The companies doing this T-Shirts who are they? The Americans, they are in MEXICO and CHINA, and in GUATEMALA…. and they are NOT PAYING THE US TAXES !! Everything is PROFFIT TO THEM. Now who is at fault here… the MEXICANS or the US GOVERNMENT. I have you guys thinking didn’t I.
It is not the Mexicans fault, everything starts in our country of origin, how we treat our people. Look at the other races, Cubans, Chinese, Vietnam, Columbians, and the list goes on… I don’t have anything against them, we all do what is necessary to survive. This country would be in so much better shape if we #1 eliminate so much hate, from one race to another. I am not a politician and will never be, because politics is what this have this country in DEBT.
The sad part is that is not going to end… and we continue to teach our children… our future leaders, hate, disobedience, to evaluate a book by the cover and not content.
Let’s focus away from the Illegal immigrants “The Mexicans”….
How about our Homeless problem, How about Welfare, How about our older people needing special care but if they don’t have $$$ they are not allowed in the Hospitals or Old Folks Homes. (That is not the Mexicans fault or any other immigrant Alien… is the Government we have to deal with) They have the money but want to spend that $$$ in Space, repairing Iraq, things of non importance as far I am concern.
I don’t have a problem with people in need using Government funded resourses, but when you see someone drive up to a Food Stamp / Food Collection Point driving an Escalate with 24″ size wheels and the Ride is all pimped out “NOT A MEXICAN” something is wrong with that picture (BLACKS/WHITE RACE).
Let’s not Blame the Race, blame the system. If any of Us Americans happen to be in this Country and things are getting to the point that we would not be able to survive by feeding and providing shelter to our loved ones,…… We / You would be looking for a way to JUMP THE FENCE.
Yes, we are proud of our country, AND PROUD OF WHO WE ARE…. WHITE, BLACK, BROWN, PURPLE, YELLOW, OR GREEN… but if your country is not helping or looking after your well been, YOU as a responsible and willing to succed human will do all the necessary movements to survive.
So in that note, take all this writings and let the Government hear you, but you know what they are going to do with it… Is going to end in the Shred.
Good luck to all of you, I am proud of be of a Hispanic heritage and to be also an American.
For some of you, don’t answer by saying that I don’t understand what I am talking about because I will not answer nor waste my time trying to explain to you how to understand.
Comment for Nancy Salas. First off Nancy, you say that American’s are too lazy to get their a$$’s up to work. Well, a TV documentary showed American contractors, farmers going to pickup Mexicans for jobs. When one of the contractors said that they pay them $10/hour cash I was astounded. Most of the people in America who would & could do that work would not get paid that kind of pay. Why? Because first off the contractor is going to have pay out $20 instead of the $10 because of government regulations, social security for you illegal a$$’s, workers compensation and other taxes. Plus the American worker if he did get $10 if it was ever offered would jump at the chance for $10 – even if he only cleared $8 after paying taxes. So, your sorry a$$ people cross the border “illegally”, get the $10 per hour – clear $10 per hour and still apply for government money. So shut up already. I think the day he coming when the American people are going to say enough is enough. As Jeff Foxworthy says, “Take Matters into their own hands.” I agree with Charles Tanner – you are a “Cancer” to America..!
I am so amazed by what all of you wrote. I’ve read this from top to bottom. I totally agree that illegals need to go back where they came from. I live in an area where they have started fining companies for hiring illegals and after the second time they loose there business license for a year. It’s really working, I think this should be a federal law. As far as Illegals paying taxes…to pay taxes you have to have a Social Security Number…you have to prove your legal status to get one…stop the BS…illegals don’t pay anything but reap rewards that not even hard working “Americans” can get. I am an American Indian by descent…in all honesty this is my country and I want you out. As far as saying that we all came here from other countries…that’s true and we made this nation what it is today…since the 1900, if you came over after thatl…YOU ARE AN ILLEGAL! If the illegals are so concerned why don’t they go take the test to become legalized…it’s not that hard for someone with half a brain. Just because your kids were born here does not make you “american”…Last thought…if you come to my country to live…you damn well better speak “MY” language. If I moved to Mexico you would expect me to speak your language…I have been to Mexico and you damn sure don’t cater to Americans…I had my bags stolen, I was assaulted and had a security guard at my hotel “frisk” me…he just wanted to feel a white woman’s ass! Keep your ass on your side of the border and I’ll keep mine on mine!
This is very sad to hear my own people describe themselves in a very negative way about my race. I was born in United States yes i did go to public schools, i did not have the luxury to attend a private school…but i attended with many American students.
we all sit around writting negative comments about illegal Mexicans crossing the border, let me tell you…its not just mexicans ok! there are Asians, Puerto Ricans, Cubans and many many other races in which most of the times they are not mentioned. Oh yes its always the Mexicans!
Yes the “Latinos” have all the jobs! but guess what my fellow Americans its the jobs that no one will take, the lowest payin, and hardest jobs that Americans refuse to take. The jobs that i myslef ,father, granfather and many family members have done…but we all pay our taxes and just as much as we take we give! born and raced in the U.S im tired of this, im frustrated! Many of my frineds are Americans and yes we all love each other. their was no hatred no mis treatments, but the more that time passes by the more hatred i see in people. Concentrate on all those drug dealers, rapist and bad people who surround our community, and they come in allsorts of colors.
i know that their are “latinos” who take advantage of the help they receive in America and that does make me really mad….because it comes out of my money too…but their are also Americans who are ligelly here, they can get decent jobs but instead they chose to get well fare…some Americans also take advantage of the system…its equal it goes both ways….we are just mad at each other, and we refuse too see…we see what we want and somtimes we are all conviced of what we beleive is right and we dont see feelings, and the souls of others and what they might be going through.
We all have a dreams and we just want to accomplish it…and maybe it can be our fault for being treated this way…but is it our fault to try in flourish in a foreing country in which many of us were brought too. I include myslef with all those “illegal” immigrants” because my parents had to get here the same way that evryone else is doing it right now, although back then it was not as hard as it is now! and some may consider us the “Cancer to America” well within all those their might just be one who does find a cure for cancer…. and every time an illegal human being buys cloth, food, gas and all those necesitive things they pay taxes…and they might not do their taxes each year because they cant but i bet you anything if you gave them a chance to do it they would not even think about it twice! and to Fred my friend….im brown and i am not a wet back(why so much hatred)…so dont assume all illegal immigrants are wet backs! all this might not apply to me but they are my people and toguether we stand strong!
Maria please represent our people! with kind words and good jugement… do not put yourself at their same level with rude words! good communication makes everything a lot better.
We are here and we will never leave! and if they take us out we will come back!
(Aqui estamos y no nos vamos! y si nos llevan nos regresamos)
I am not saying to invite everyone from Mexico or freely opening the doors so every Mexican can cross over! all im saying is to work something out to the benefit of everyone! with no hatret no name calling and you know what? their is laziness in everyone kind of race like their are killers and rapists in red, white, black, brown…in all sorts of colors. we meed to treat ourselves with respect! like human beings not like animals, because i know that we can and that everything is possible!
with love to both my countries! Made in Mexico, born in California and raced in the beutiful agricultural lands of Washington!
The Fair Tax solves the problem of collecting income tax. You spend (voluntarily), you pay taxes (voluntarily). This applies to everyone from the DAR to illegals, from trust fund babies to drug dealers.
No documents, no rebates.
They contribute and voluntarily! thank you steve i hope you understand where i am coming from! i support my people in every way but i dont support does who take advantage of the system! thats my money too! and that goes to all Americans who also take advantage of the system!
“First we kill all the lawyers”
Illegal is Illegal. My ancestors game with papers in hand with HONOR, INTEGRITY , PRIDE AND RESPECT. Illegals sneak into a country and CONTINUE TO MILK THE SYSTEM DRY AND BREAK THE SAME LAWS THAT EVERY AMERICAN HAS TO OBEY. Greed brings them here and Greed hires them. This HAS TO STOP NOW or our MORAL FABRIC, THE CORE OF WHAT IT IS TO BE A PROUD AMERICAN OF ALL COLORS IS AT STAKE HERE. WE are going to have a large population of Illegals who have too many American Children for the sole purpose to benefit their greedy attitude. It the Illegals fault that Americans do not want them here. They step on our American Flag on US SOIL because we have liberties that they love to DISRESPECT. Stop hiring Illegals fellow Americans of ALL COLORS. End the cycle of greed and then say bye, bye because the REVOLUTION HAS STARTED. Americans are born Rebels and we our proud. We have let you stamp on our flag, speak ghetto Spanish, break our laws, ruin the idea of being a professional construction or garden worker. There is no pride with you illegals you are like fleas…too many and very annoying coupled with your parasite tendencies. Get out of our country before my fellow Americans throw you out. There are so many DESERVING IMMIGRANTS OF ALL COLORS who respect out country and what it represents ….they are waiting in line RIGHT NOW. They DESERVE TO BE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. The party is over …….you better BELIEVE IT Your numbers don’t top the numbers of AMERICANS. Get out of our country YOU DO NOT BELONG HERE AND YOU WILL NEVER BELONG HERE AND IT IS YOUR FAULT ….READ MY ENGLISH LIPS.
Okey dokey. You know what? You can all just keep coming over here and breaking the laws. Eventually there will be no law. You do know that we aren’t all whiny hybrid car driving sissy men right? If you think you are taking what I have you got a big suprise coming.
About this “things that Americans wont do” theory, …
I can’t think of a single job an American won’t do. This is a foot in the door option for you folks. My prediction is that soon you will start to talk about how it isn’t fair that you have to do those menial tasks and that you deserve more. Can we send you home then? Nope. It’ll be too late.
One more thing. … Stay out of my hunting spot.
First off do all of u seriously have nothing better to do than sit here and argue about immigration ( including me right now i know …. what a sad life we live). on top of that is the harsh verbage really helping. i would suggest anger management to Mr. Jerry ;seems like you have a bit of a problem. Big deal if other people have a different opinion then u do, its not going to KILL YOU!! The only way america is even growing in population right now is by immigration. my personal opinion is that is not a good thing because alot of it is illegal immigration. i see the point of the oposing side of course, i would love for this country to be able to help out and let anyone come in. sadly that can not happen! I strongly believe the majority of our population needs to be made up of Americans. And as for illegal mexican immigrants taking our “jobs”…. HA! its called go to college … get an education and the means to gain a higher paying job. why would you ever want to get a job like that anyways?? Dishwashing jobs and the jobs most illegal immigrants are “taking away from americans” are jobs for teens like me anyways. A low paying job yet low demanding job. im sorry we just can’t all get that :O(
I agree with Miamigirl, the middle class is being sold out. The govt idiots don’t care about the middle class, they just pander to the illegals and big business…..sad!
btw….I live in Phoenix, AZ…..It is turning into a violent third world dump, thanks to the city government’s sanctuary city policies…..does anyone else out there have stories about the demise of their city/town?
Complain all you want. We are here to stay. You want our hard labor and our drugs. If you didnt need us, we would not be here!!!!
I want to say this.. I am an Native American female, who has many multiple health problems. I live in Austin Texas. Right now I am not working, not able to because of my health. For the last 7 months I have had no food, and I am not able to get food stamps . I have sat at the South Austin Human Resource and see with my on eyes that only the Mexicans get the Human Services Red Carpet Ride here. I have seen black people and white people walk away with no money for food.. or even emergency food stamps … nada. this includes me. Only the illegals are the ones (whom refuse to speak english.. the ones who rape our system for resources) which they are not allowed to receive in their own country Mexico. Look around at the homeless.. what color are they? What do you see. My peoples were here long before these “brown” people came in and invaded the Americas..I am very ill, and I deserve to have food on my table. I have worked all of my life, and I’ll be damn to allow this course to keep going the way it is.. I’d say SEND THEM BACK TO MEXICO… CHILDREN AND ALL.. ESPECIALLY IF YOU NOT BORNE INTO THE AMERICAS.. SEND THE ILLEGALS MOTHERS HOME, LEAVE THEIR CHILDREN BEHIND, Native Americans take back your country.. so we can eat, and receive proper medical care.. have you all notice that where ever there is over abundance of Mexicans.. that Americas Health Care is on a spiral downward.. and since it has gone down the tubes.. no funds available that only the Mexicans are getting treated!!! take a good look in the Emergency Rooms.. what color of people are sitting in there.. mostly whites/blacks, only the Mexicans are being seen.. what does this say to the Americans.. as far as ms. brown who made her comment.. unless you are white and native american.. you have “no rights” to voice..
I AM SEARCHING FOR AN ATTORNEY I AM BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST AND WHEN I DO FIND ONE.. THE STATE OF TEXAS..for reverse discrimination against white/ Native American disabled citizens.. ones whom had the Americas in the first place..
They are ILLEGAL! They’re going to have to wai there turn to get into out country! This is our Country! IT’S NOT THEIR’S!!! Who cares if they work more than us! They can’t just sneak into our country!
I think some of you closed-minded people should take a look at what the standard of living is like in Mexico City. There ARE no jobs. You have to attempt to raise a family and keep them alive on $50-$75 a month, if that. And your lucky if you can get one person in the house a job, much less our American Dream of both working parents, lots of daycare for the babies, two cars, a huge house with too many rooms filled with useless stuff that could be sold to feed a Mexican family for a month. I think you should also take a look at how expensive it is to LEGALLY become an American citizen. That option is only available to the people in Mexico who are born into high society with a lot of money, so that they can bribe the people to do their paperwork into moving them to the front of “the line”. And the people with no money (which is the majority of mexicans) …guess what? They just keep getting shoved back and back and back and they never move forward in that “line” due to the greediness of both Mexican and American officials. I’m not saying there aren’t bad Mexicans here. I’m not saying that all Illegal immigrants are hard workers that are honest (beyond jumping the border out of necessity) and generally good people. There ARE a lot of Mexicans here who commit crimes and who end up going to jail or being deported because of that. I’m not denying that. But we as Americans could live up to our reputation as the “Melting Pot” and make an attempt to help the honest, hard working Mexicans to come to America legally. If that was the case, then many of them would be ABLE to get honest jobs, rather than under-the-table, poor pay, crappy hours sort of jobs, and wouldn’t NEED government programs. We DO have the resources available to screen the applicants for immigration. We just need to put some people in the front of that “line” that actually CARE about diversifying America further and treating our neighbors as brothers rather then just making thousands of dollars by pulling this application to the top of the stack and screw everyone else.
Mexico DOES have resources, as some people have said, and I do agree that Mexican workers should work to make Mexico as great as the USA is. BUT…you need to look into the fact that Mexico’s president is doing NOTHING to help. If our beloved President Bush did the things that Mexico’s president is doing (or not doing!) he would have been impeached in the first WEEK! But Mexicans feel that they are trapped and have no options living there, beyond living in a dirty, terrifying city where a woman can’t even go buy a couple of tortillas to feed her family without being mauled and beat up in the street or having the crap beat out of her by her husband because her hand accidently brushed another man’s hand (Both true stories that are very common in Mexico!). Mexico’s government couldn’t care less about helping their people move up into the information age. All they care about is the money their making from bribes.
Let’s see…I’ve covered illegals “stealing” our jobs…I’ve covered WHY they’re coming here and why they can’t come here legally…Okay….on to my next response…
As for those of you who insist that illegals are “bleeding us dry” of resources….yes, there are some illegal Mexican immigrants who take advantage of our systems for medical, food, and cash help. Just like there are Americans who take advantage of the same systems, refusing to work and instead reaping the benefits of free stuff. There are also Japanese immigrants who do the same things…Irish…Chinese…Italian…etc…etc…I could list just about every country in the world and there’s probably an immigrant from that country somewhere “taking advantage of the system.” I don’t argue with the fact that in this day and age, the majority is Mexican immigrants doing this. But during the history of America, there’s been many different majorities. It’s not fair to put the burden of a lack of money and services on just the illegal Mexican’s shoulders. There are now American citizens with Spanish names that are being discriminated against here in Washington when they apply for benefits simply because there is so much discrimination against Hispanics in our country now. There are SO many complaints of “Reverse discrimination” (which doesn’t exist…it’s STILL discrimination, but that’s another topic all together) that, at least where I live, the social workers are so terrified of “another complaint” that they won’t give benefits to people with Hispanic names without SEEING a social security card…they won’t accept a number. Hmm..weird that they don’t require to see social security cards for whites, asians, blacks…or anyone else for that matter. Not only that, but even though our laws state that a social security number is only needed for people applying for benefits, they are now discriminating against people who marry a person of hispanic origin and people who’s parents are of hispanic origin, and yet the whole family are American Citizens. Perfect example: I know someone who applied for benefits for her and her daughter, and NOT her husband, and she was denied because she refused to furnish a SSN for her husband because he doesn’t feel comfortable giving out his number when it’s not necessary according to the law because her husband’s parents are Mexican and therefore he has a Hispanic name. His immigration status (LEGAL CITIZEN, by the way) nonwithstanding…they have no right to deny a woman and her child who furnished their social security numbers because he refuses to furnish his. So now because of websites like this and people like you being SOOO closed minded and using the most available scapegoat you can find, Mexicans, American Citizens are being discriminated against now too. Before you start blaming anyone you can find, MAYBE you should open your eyes to the retributions to Americans with Hispanic names. Is it really fair to discriminate against someone because their white mom happens to like the name “Pedro” for her son? Or because a young American’s grandma was a Mexican national, immigrated legally to the US, and so her mother wanted to honor that woman by naming her daughter Maria Santiago? Is it really fair to make a young, one year old child go without healthcare or immunizations because her daddy is Mexican? NO. Think before you speak, people. Honestly!!!
I’ve covered “bad” illegals…the ones who end up in the jail system, and who fight and shoot and steal a little bit. I know they exist. But just as it’s not fair that just because some Hispanics are bad people, we should kick all of them out. As I said before, there ARE ways to screen the Hispanics. It’s just a matter of STOPPING the bribery and the greediness when they try to come into America and finding people who care enough about the country to HELP rather than sit and complain and just create more and more harm. And would it REALLY be fair to say that just because the majority of alcoholics in the US are white males 20-30 years old, then all white males between 20-30 years old must be alcoholics…or that all alcoholics are white males between 20-30 years old? No…of course not. You have to look at the broad spectrum and stop lumping everyone together based on race, color, or national origin!!!
I realize that this whole big huge long vent will probably not change anyone’s mind and that it was mostly for my own benefit as this is something that personally affects me and my family, although I am not Mexican. I hope that I will open someone’s eyes to the fact that this discrimination against Hispanics is not just hurting the hispanics. It is hurting everyone. I hope that this will make everyone at least take a second to stop hating and to think about the families your hate is hurting.
Thank you for reading.
Ms. Salas cant even spell half of her words so i dont know how she can argue she needs to go back to preschool lol. Now about these aliens….. this is America. Our soldiers didnt die in all of the wars that we have fought just so some illegal immigrants from other countries could hop our borders. i know immigrants just dont come from mexico but as of righ now that is were the problem is. so all u ppl for aliens dont change the subject talkn bout other countries. our prob isnt wit them its wit mexico. I am a proud african american which means yes i am an immigrant. but the white man came over to my f-ing country and took us jst cause he got lazy. So dont fuckn tell me that every1 is illegal except native americans. we didnt even have a choice.
what we need to do is elecrify the fence and put a manmade river along the fence that runs litterally next to it that way they would think 2wice about hopping the border…O YA ALSO WHAT THE F*&^ MAKES PPL THNK THAT THEY CAN SURVIVE IN AN INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRY THAT IS GROWING EVERYDAY, WHEN THEY CANT EVEN DRINK THEIR OWN WATER FROM THEIR COUNTRY? I honestly am no racist either i have friends of all races one of my good friends is puerto rican and half mexican and we argue on this subject all the time. Plus they wnt to made a citizen? they wnt rights? they dnt deserve shit. they hopped the border and didnt get caught, damn.
I live in southern cali. infested wit aliens sure they take jobs that americans dont want to do DUH? ARE U RETARDED? maria? Why would we take those jobs when our parents have spent theire hard earned time and effort trying to give us an education? So we can take advantage of America. Aliens cant get real jobs, they cant join the army cause all theyl do is go to another country and infest theres, all they can do is pick oranges, mow lawns, the usual. At least if ur a citizen u can take advantages of a minimum wage job. ppl take advantage of them because they dont know a penny frm a peso and thats wat they get for trying to run our country. TRYING..
EVERYONE HAS SEEMED TO 4GET THAT THE BORDER HOPPERS HAD A PROGRAM THAT THEY COULD COME OVER HERE LEGALLY AND STAY FOR LIKE 10 YRS OR SOMTHING AND GO BACK WHEN THEY WERE DONE. IT WAS CALLED THE BRACERO PROGRAM. SO ALL U PPL FOR ALIENS HOPPING THE BORDER, ARE STUPID. AND THINK IN A COUPLE OF YRS THEY WILL BE RUNNING LA. THEY ARE ALREADY RUNNING COMPTON AND EAST LA. SO U PPL AGAIN, WHO ARE FOR IT WHO LIVE IN CALI, TEXAS, ARIZONA, OR NEW MEXICO, WHAT ARE U IGNORANT BISCUITS GONNA SAY WHEN THEY RUN UR STATE AND RUN U OUT? REGULAR LAW ABIDING CITIZENS CANT EVEN GET A JOB THAT THEY DESERVE BECASUE OF ILLEGAL ALIENS AND HOW THERE CHEAPER.
U ALL JUST GOT OWNED IF ANY1 WNTS TO CHAT MORE POST A COMMENT ON THIS SITE AND I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SCHOOL ALL u hatas.
Riverside!!!!!!!
JOIN US IN OUR FIGHT AGAINST THE ILLEGAL ALIENS!
At last, here’s a practical solution to the illegal immigration problem:
We know that most illegal aliens are here to work and support their families, so if we eliminate the jobs they won’t come and those that are here will have to go back. So here’s what I propose:
Let’s replace the illegal field workers with good, solid US citizens!
We could form an organization called the
“United Legal Citizens To Replace The Illegal Alien Field Workers”
I nominate Lou Dobbs, Bill O’reilly, Sean Hannity and Ann Coulter to head the organization.
They could use their websites to make it easier for good citizens to sign up or travel the country and hold town meetings in auditoriums or open air stadiums to recruit personally. This could be our much-needed opportunity to unite the nation.
A good source of workers would be those on welfare, the homeless, the prison system or anyone reading this post!
Of course, Lou, Bill, Sean and Ann would set the example by working
the fields at least one day a week!
If you’re ready to take back our fields and send the invaders back where they came from visit http://www.godsbiznez.com to sign up!
Erasmo
Fight Against Illegal Aliens :
SCHOOL YARD BULLY MENTALITY!
Well, up until now, no one has signed up (www.godsbiznez.com)
to replace these Invaders in the fields! Why am I not surprised?
It proves my point. It’s not so much about catching law breakers
that are coming here to spend our tax dollars, but it’s about
feeling the power and authority over the weak and defenseless.
It’s as old as time itself.
The relentless pursuit of illegals by The Coalition Against
Illegal Immigration, the Minutemen, the City of Tulsa, the City
of Irving, TX and many others remind me of the notiorously
well known school yard bully of my days.
We all remember them. Most schools had them and still do. This
was the big kid picking on the small, skinny kid unable to defend
himself. I was a victim of one of these bullies in the sixth grade. I
remember reading a Charles Atlas advertisement in my Superman
comic book. There was this skinny looking guy on the beach with
his girl when along came this big burly guy kicking sand over them
and as he tried to complain, the big guy pushed him aside and eventually
went off with his girl!
The skinny guy read the same Charles Atlas advertisement and sent for
the body-building course. Needless to say, after he went through the
course and built up his body, he went back to the beach and took care
of the big guy and even got his girl back!
I got so inspired reading this that I saved all my school lunch money
for many weeks until I had enough to send for the Charles Atlas course
so I could become strong enough to defend myself!
Like the CAII, the Minutemen and others, these school yard bullies
got their kicks by preying on the weak and defenseless. They couldn’t
wait for another day to go after the scrawny kid to beat him up and
take away his lunch money. They loved to see him crying on the ground. In
fact they gloated and boasted of their power over them, much like the
Minutemen do now displaying the photos on their website, of all the
illegal men, women and children rounded up and tied up like animals.
Oh, I forgot, they’re breaking the law and coming over here to spend
our tax dollars educating their children and providing health care!
OK, that’s fair. You’re concerned about lawbreakers and your tax
dollars.
How about going after the alcohol abusers? How many deaths are
caused by the (legal and illegal) drunkards behind their wheels? How
many tax dollars are spent on alcohol-related illnesses and accidents?
How many marriages and families destroyed by this legal “liquid hell?”
How many murders committed “under the influence?”
Why not go after them?
Why not use your vast resources and wait outside of the nation’s bars,
taverns, nite clubs, college sororities, private clubs, office parties and
so on and so on, and initiate a citizen’s arrest or call the police ( hopefully
they’re sober!) before these drunkards get in their cars and kill themselves
or some other innocent victim?
I’ll tell you why not. Because bullies ONLY pick on the weak and
defenseless and those who can’t fight back. That’s how they get their kicks.
Thankfully, the internet (Charles Atlas) is available to stand up against you
and expose your hypocrisy before the world!
Erasmo
yo inGodsbizness r u for or against?
Why is my son leaving for his second tour of duty today in Iraq, while the illegals that march for ‘their rights’, sit back on their behinds, not paying taxes, not paying their debt to a society they claim, but yet do not belong to.
Send any illegal alien men (and women, why not) to Iraq to PROVE their love for OUR country, as my son has, then upon return to the United States, they can have their citizenship. I am fed up watching others demand ‘entitlements’ while they contribute NOTHING to be entitled to!
I work in healthcare, our office is closing in part due to an overwhelming # of illegals with no health insurance (and or no social security # and a host of aliases and PO Boxes) who skip out of large healthcare bills we as TAXPAYERS are left to assume, I am disgusted and so dismayed
you all illegal immigrants are so stupid..to back to mexico. you are not wanted here.
I just want to start out by saying I am absolutely disgusted by this page. While doing a research assignment about immigration I stumbled upon this page. I am just horrified. I am half swedish and half mexican ( PROUD OF IT!!) It absolutely breaks my heart to see so many ignorant people commenting. It is horrible to see how little progress this country has made in an effort against racism. I think about 98% of the comments about talk about how horrible mexican people are. How can you say that? Its just so wrong. There are so many great people out there from different countries and to stereotype one entire population in a small cruel sentence is just completely ignorant. Maybe many of you are uneducated and know nothing about the history of the United States. Native Americans initially owned this land. We stole it from them and made it our own… us good ol’ americans have a tendancy to do so. I am more than proud to be an american. I love my country,and i agree that yes, there are many problems associated with illegal immigration and that some steps need to be taken to find a suitable compromise. People flee their countries to come to the land of opportunity, to leave oppression, poverty, and in justice. Not everyone is blessed with the rights we have. How dare any of us look down upon those not as fortunate. How many of you have actually been to Mexico??… im not talking cancun or anywhere americanized… like real mexico?? Before you pass judgement on an entire population of people saying go back to where you came from you stupid wetbacks… go there. I encourage it. Go there and live there. They come here for a chance at a better life. I have worked with many illegal immigrants… at least over 50… and every single one of them have been nothing but hard working and helpful. They would go out of their way to help other workers. I work in a classroom with all spanish speaking children whose parents are possibly illegal. Never have I seen such sweet caring kids… and i have worked with many kids of many races. I now have to go back to writing my paper… although i would rather write a 10 page paper about how awful some people are…..
Kim
I have never seen racism at its worst. We were all illegal immigrants at one time. The only legal Americans were the Native American Indians. We took their land, just like we complain others are doing to us today. Often, people on this blog speak of only Spanish cultures being illegal immigrants. The truth is, “illegal immigrants” from the Asian Countries are crossing the border from Mexico, too. I agree we have a problem with immigration. We also have a labor shortage problem. Those that used to build cars for $25 an hour in Michigan are not going to work for $8 an hour here in California for 12 hours straight, each day, to pick artichokes or other fruits and vegetables. Californians are split 50-50 on the issue of illegal immigrants because of the amount of farming we do in this state and the knowledge we have of the importance of these laborers to doing the work Americans don’t want to do. We’re not talking about jobs the homeless need. We’re talking about jobs middle class Americans need. I have worked for years with illegal immigrants, as a supervisor. They don’t get paid $10 an hour. They get $6-$8 and hour here. We need to build the wall between here and Mexico. We need to stop providing services to these people when they come across the border. But, we need a guest program, too, so we have laborers to do work Americans don’t want to do. We need a Democratic Congress and President that will sit down and discuss this issue with Governors from all states to see what they need. California has 25% of all illegal immigrants. I agree with New Yorks idea of giving driver’s licenses to illegal immigrants. We rely on cars here. Ever see the traffic here? I lived in New York City 42 years and here 2 years. Nothing like the traffic here. IF you give illegals driving lessons, they won’t be driving slowly to hide from police so they don’t get a ticket. This slows all traffic to a standstill. Teaching them how to drive also reduces accidents. This reduces congestion. It also reduces your insurance premiums. IT will also create a hologram license for American citizens that is tamper proof. A license for illegals that shows they took driver’s ed and can read English, which we need. It is not the job of the state’s taxpayers to pay taxes to have state police apprehend and jail illegal immigrants. Let Congress have federal taxes pay for federal law enforcement to do the job. I pay enough state taxes already. Hillary Clinton is right on the money when she says the states are not responsible for this issue. The president is. George Bush left us all hanging on so many issues. this was one of them. I left the Republican party and will vote for a moderate like Hillary-just like her husband, to get this job done right. She is willing to listen and talk. Someone has to figure this out. Their is no one right answer. We will have to try and try again until we get it right.
You know, if you have to reduce your level of thinking and reasoning to attack someone else, what does that say about your intellect? Illegals happen to be a cancer on our great society. They come into our country ILLEGALLY, and then, they DEMAND their “rights” from a government that they DON’T RESPECT. That’s a big steaming load of crap. And another thing. This is America. If you come here, you should follow our laws, not think that, just because you are here, you get everything us law abiding U.S. Citizens do. You don’t.
I am so sick of the ‘RACIST’ label. How would you like it if Americans started sneaking into your country, demanding to have the same rights as a natural-born American citizen? I’ve done my research, and I know that Mexico’s security officers are shockingly cruel to those who break into their country, or are unforunate enough to be caught. They are beaten, tortured, or even killed, and the women raped. If an American border patrol officer so much as approaches or apprehends an illegal from Mexico (or any other race) they are automatically condemned as racist. And us concerned American citizens are being called ‘xenophobic’. Personally, I don’t want people living here in America who don’t respect our laws and who display such contempt for the American people. Stay in Mexico if you don’t like the way we run things. Better yet, try talking to your ‘president’, Vicente Fox. Ask HIM why Mexico is so dependent on our economy to keep yours afloat.
Jason, no offense, but I think you’re making a huge mistake in considering voting for Hilary Clinton. She is all talk but her support for issues is very shaky — she jumps from one thing to the next, and I doubt she’s the person you want running this country. Just because George Bush is not a good president doesn’t mean ALL Republicans are going to be just as bad.
Kimberly, we’re talking about breaking the law here. It doesn’t matter how ‘sweet’ and ‘hard-working’ they are, they broke the law. They are making LEGAL Mexican immigrants look bad. I know plenty of Hispanics and have nothing but respect for them, but anyone who breaks into this country deserves the proper punishment for it. Sure, there are plenty of illegals from other countries, but they are vastly outnumbered by Mexican illegals. As I said before, I have no problem with LEGAL Mexican immigrants. I admire them for having the patience and motivation it takes in order to go through the naturalization process. But I can’t find it in me to respect someone who breaks the law. Enough said.
sorry, I meant Ray, not Jason. Excuse me.
I have been noticing a lot of whining about racism in the American Taxpayer Educated Mex Sellout op-ed columns lately.
It seems one columnist is upset because Americans are starting to put the SUPPORTERS and CONSPIRITORS of the Mex Invasion in the same boat as the invaders themselves. They speak at their exclusionary “Hispanic Chambers of Commerce” (Mex separatism) about how they don’t support the illegal criminal invaders. BULLSHIT. Americans are watching all the stupid laws The Racists (La Raza) and their Mex sellout asshole political puppets (the crooked assholes that are either being bribed to sell Americans out, or they are making direct profit from illegal alien peasant labor) are trying sneak in under the Regular Americans’ radar constantly. We are seeing your two faced lies in action. Americans know that hyphenated “Americans” are constantly working to get power and advantages. Whether it is simply by over breeding like insects or just corrupt tactics borrowed from the third world shithole that spawned their sorry asses. Always sneaking around and cheating.
One whining asshole cried about how our paranoid American media is destroying the smooth Mex takeover of America. We are watching you sneaky bastards and will move to plug all the little driver’s license schemes, the free college for criminal trespasser alien cockroaches, giving the identity thieving criminals social security benefits, etc. WHILE ALL THE INVADERS BASTARDS ARE SPOKEN TO IN A FOREIGN FREAKIN’ LANGAUGE ON AMERCIA SOIL!
BULLSHIT!
Another whining asshole said we aren’t patient enough with the dumbass Mex invader learning their English skills so they can be Americans, if they are legal, that is. No one believes that bullshit either. Mex language radio and TV is spreading across America like a disease. It ruins traditional markets and pollutes the airways of America with that horrible foreigner babbling while Regular America is at war overseas. This is the single most telling item to disprove the Mex sympathizer’s lying BULLSHIT about the Mex trying to learn English. Americans out in public are forced to listen to these invader bastards with their babbling monkey-talk in stores, at doctor’s offices, at DMV, no place is safe for Americans. The invader cockroaches are everywhere. They all listen to Mex media sources and they babble like monkeys in public. Even working at McDonalds, the idiots are babbling like monkeys. How are they supposed to be learning English? SPEAK THE LANGAUGE OR GO HOME. WE ARE SICK OF YOU ALREADY! GET OUT.
One whining Mex sellout was crying about two Americas when it comes to opposition to the illegal Mex cockroach invasion. Allegedly, the America that wants illegal invader cockroach money and labor (the vast minority) is the one that has it right. Thing is these Mex sellout bastards are either traitor assholes hiring wetbacks, sellout bastards making money selling to, renting to, or otherwise taking illegal invader cockroach money, or politicians looking for illegal invader cockroach votes. Most of this group live in gated communities and don’t have to watch the urban and social decay these piles of defecation drag in with them. The other America is the fed up taxpayers who have to keep moving away and moving away to other places to get themselves, and their families, away from these filthy, thieving, amoral animals and their offspring. The invader cockroaches always end up invading that side of town too, and then the Americans have to move again. This has got to stop. It costs too much to move. I say move the invader cockroach…BACK TO MEXICO!
One America, I’ll call it Hyphenated America, makes nice to the Mex invader and The Racists (La Raza) stooges in Washington because they are rotten to the fucking core just like the corrupt third world trash they are selling us out to. This Hyphenated America is flushing the Real American down the toilet. News flash. The Hyphenated America is on it’s way out and so is the Wetback Invader, along with their Sellout Mex-American scum. The Real America is just about done taking the BULLSHIT.
The second America, the Real Americans, are sick of press “2″ for Wetback Gibberish, and the list of OTHER BULLSHIT that comes with the Illegal Mex Invasion.
BULLSHIT such as listed here:
Babbling illegal invaders sneaking into America, stealing identities, getting low paying jobs and signing up for every social program there is available to Real Americans, being dirt poor and trying to have 10 offspring ON THE TAXPAYER TIT that proceed to dumb the schools up and eventually the whole nation while bankrupting hospitals all over America by using ER as a Free “Clinica”, lying, cheating, stealing, park littering, five families in one rent house and having nightly orgies to crank out anchor babies, “poor people” driving new SUVs with those stupid looking rims on them (gotta be able to haul that HUGE family, right?), illegal fireworks, parties with piñatas in cemeteries, theft of graveside items from American graves, demanding that Americans learn their babbling language and read up on their culture (READ UP ON THESE NUTS ASSHOLES), gangs and graffiti, idiotos and pendajas with no driver’s license or insurance driving 30 mph in a 55 mph zone, free health-care, criminally insane pitbulls on the loose, childish, stupid too loud “aye-aye-aye” music disturbing Americans resting, future inmate thug kids, stupid-ass guns shooting on the 4th of July and New Year’s, the filthy stinking baby diapers on park picnic tables (I WOULD LOVE TO SHOVE THE PUTA THAT DID ITS FACE IN IT AND THEN DUCT TAPE IT ONTO THE WHORE’S FAT, UGLY MUG), screaming chickens roaming around shitting and fucking all over the place, unlicensed drunken hit-and-run drivers, the murdering, raping, kidnapping drive-by doing nigga wannabes, ghetto-trash loud car stereos in those stupid-looking “lowriders”, chicken fighting criminals, dog fighting criminals, the monkey house babbling in public places (if you invaders talk out of your asses, shouldn’t you be walking on your hands?) the bilingual job hook-up racket, the bilingual bitches who get hooked-up with state jobs just because they can babble to the idiotos and then turn around and disrespect real Americans trying to do state business, screaming kids running all over the place at the store, rude fat bitches cutting line, knocked-up welfare whores pushing three baby carriages down the sidewalk while waiting on their inmate as*hole hubby to get out of prison to knock the whore up again (while taxpayers supply the money for this stupid excuse for a family), WICA, free meals, free childcare, free, free, free, while working Americans are supposed to be Racists when they get fed up with the BULLSHIT? OH YEAH ALSO THE ILLEGAL WAY YOU BASTARDS ABUSE ANIMALS. I WOULD LOVE TO CHAIN ONE OF YOU DOG ABUSING COCKSUCKERS THAT TO A FREAKING TREE AND SEE HOW YOU INBRED ASSHOLES LIKE IT!!!!!!!
Yet another whiner compares the “civil rights” (RIGHTS, MY ASS…ILLEGAL IS ILLEGAL!) plight of the Mex invader to that of the Black experience in America. I believe the misinformed splittail called them African-Americans. I’d bet even rich Black like Clarence Thomas never went to Africa. Why would they? Like Mexico, modern Africa is totally fucked. The Blacks secretly thank God for their forced rescue from their own ignorant inbreeding and overpopulating. Just like modern Mexico, Africans, in their ignorance, have cranked out so many offspring they have no hope of feeding them all. Or feeding themselves for that matter. Don’t forget AIDS. Like Mexico, they have literally fucked their own country to death. If we had a border with Africa we’d be fighting those ignorant peasants, along with the Mex peasants of course, for our land and resources. The Catholic Church has convinced these ignorant, inbred fools that large families, that you can’t feed, are not stupid. They are WEALTH! This is why Mexico has starved out these “wealthy” over breeding animals. They have too many of them. They had to get rid of the stupid, pitiful inbreeders. Send them to America they said! They are still fucking like bugs over here. The stupid idiotos think the world can feed millions, even billions, of unproductive dumbasses! What backward thinking fools! Our Mex sellout government thinks the Middle Class Pissed Off Taxpayer is going to feed these ignorant invading assholes. BULLSHIT! The Second Civil War is coming to this country. It will take more than fucking like bugs and taking the restaurant and lawnmowing jobs away from our teens to takeover America. Americans built this country and we will defend our America. Make no mistake about it.
I read that the Catholic Church discriminated against Clarence Thomas. Yes, it is sad. Seems the Bishops and Popes and Priests and such pedophiles would not rape a young black kid. So he left the church for college with his anus intact. He has been very sensitive to discrimination ever since then. Another little known fact is that Michael Jackson is Catholic. He turned himself white so the Catholic Priests, Popes and Bishops and such would rape him. He said in an interview on CNN that it “like totally changed my life”. What a pedo freak the kid turned out to be. The papers say he left the country to go the Middle East and live. Truth is the Catholic Church had him killed a long time ago. The Pedophile we had been seeing on TV the last few years was really the Pope in drag. They say he’s having a good old time in the Middle East these days…tending to Church business and all. The new Commy Pope on TV denouncing Real Christians worldwide is the clone of Hitler, and the Biblical Anti-Christ.
The Catholic Church is to blame for all a lot of the world’s poor
countries with huge inbred populations. The Catholics teach against birth control and the third world countries have no television sets . All the inbred third world dwellers have to do for entertainment is to fuck. Too stupid to use birth control, so there goes the world due to overpopulation by third world trash.
Kind of freaky when you think about all those families living in one house and fucking in front of the kids. No wonder you are so morally fucked up as a people.
Our traitorous greedy bastards providing jobs are also to blame, but that is changing. I do believe this yapping pack of Chihuahuas has FINALLY woken the Sleeping Giant. Soon we will get the fence built and rid our country of this nation’s single greatest challenge to the American Way…the Illegal Mex Invader.
Not the undocumented worker, immigrant, or migrant. The Illegal Alien Invader Cockroaches, okay I’ll take off the Cockroaches. Even though you breed like bugs, you do look and sound more like Monkeys, here’s the benefit of the doubt. The Illegal Alien Invader Monkeys. I would hate for one you The Racists (La Raza) bastards to call me a racist. Is it true that “racist” is the first word of English The Illegal Alien Invader Monkey learns? Because it is used out of context by The Illegal Alien Invader Monkey and members of Hyphenated America so much it is amazing. Surely they don’t understand what the words means.
It is time for America to close down all immigration and take care of our own. Our kindness and pity for the starving masses are not working out in today’s world full of dirt poor, corrupt nations. It is time to drop the hyphens. Either you are an American or you are not. So what about you American taxpayer educated Mex sellout bastards? Are you Mex or American? The time is coming for you to decide. You’ll see.
Long speech I know. Lots to say and the War for America is just starting. I started saying the Pledge of Allegiance to Our Flag when I am around babbling monkey wetbacks in public. My American email friends are liking it and doing it, too. It’s spreading. Hopefully, I’ll get to read where one of you Mex sellouts are whining about the “disrespect” for your precious Illegal Alien Invader Monkeys in the newspaper soon…
And remember the line forms right here….All of you Illegal Alien Invader Monkeys, and members of Hyphenated America, can line up here and kiss my Real American ass!
HUELO MIERDA!
immigrants have just as much right to be in this country as we do . not all illegal immigrants are bad. Many of them come because they hope to have better opportunities. They are contributing to our economy because they take the jobs that Americans would not take. I believe that immigrants who come here to do nothing should be deported back to their country, but those who come here to provide themselves and their families with a better life should have the right to stay. We are all equal. Stop being so ignorant !
katiemfurlan … i understand your view but have you ever considered how difficult it is for an immigrant to get a greencard to come to the united states?? it can take possibly years and they are most likely to not even get one. It’s ridiculous. if they come here illegally but to seek jobs to provide for their families, i believe that there is no reason to deport them back to their country.
SAMI
t takes so long because the inbred population of Mexico is huge. Ten pounds of shit in a five pound bag. Why is this the Pissed Off American Taxpayer’s problem? Maybe if we could sterilize you cockroach bastards Green Cards would go faster. Honestly, we don’t need your huge numbers of “Wild West” lawless bastards. America is a country of laws. Mexico is corrupt shithole and Mexicans are lawless trash. You are not welcome here. Go home and take your welfare whores and anchor babies with you. Fuck off and die you asshole.
In many industries immigrants work for less than was previously paid for the same job and the continued influx of more labor has kept these wages low.
People who do this have to accept the resultant negative feedback. Low wage positions have reached a critical mass in that many people feel the effect of a long time of all Governments looking the other way.
I don’t know how this will end.
As is historically the case many immigrants ( illegal or legal, and these distinctions are getting blurred; my grandparents came through Ellis Island, I guess they were documented ) are very young. What will happen to them in 20 years? I wonder what the average age of produce pickers are?
Immigrants will change this country. No question about that. Go ask any Native Born American.
This is a Northern European based nation. Its laws and values derive from that experience. We will lose this tradition in this wave of latin and South American immigration. There are just to many people and it seems like there is no interest in assimilation. And a bunch of politically correct laws in place to prevent this.
We will see what the immigrant’s children do: will they reject their parents heritage and say I want to be American now, or will they not integrate?
I think it’s to early to tell.
American Michael
Why so rude? I am not mexican I am a u.s citizen born and raised here. There is no need to be so vulgar and your rudeness just shows your ignorance and stupidity so don’t tell me to fuck off and die. Why don’t you go do something productive with your life and stop embarrassing yourself
Well, in the first place, I think that everyone should calm down, and stop “yelling” at eachother. All this heated talk isn’t going to solve or help illegal immigration. As to my opinions on illegal immigration, I agree that illegal aliens do benefit our economy in many ways. But I think a big concern is that if we encourage illegal immigration, we are encouraging people to disregard our (US’s) laws. Encouraging people to break the law by coming over illegally and allowing them to stay illegally is wrong and not setting a wise precendent for the future. There’s not much worse than a country were there is no respect for the laws. I’m exaggerating here, but do you get the point? Anyway, there is no fool-proof or expediant way to stop illegal immigration without disadvantages to the current system. It is a huge problem that would take many years and lots of enforcement to solve, if it could indeed be solved. So, my thoughts.
Here’s the deal Sam. I am doing something productive. I am trying to get you Invader Assholes to understand that Real Americans are sick of you. ALL OF YOU. SO FUCK OFF AND DIE TO YOU, YOUR KNOCKED-UP FAT, UGLY ANCHOR-BABY MACHINE OLD LADIES, YOUR STUDID, LAZY, AMERICAN SOCIETY-DRAGGING DOWN ANCHOR BABIES, AND EVERY OTHER MEX-FECES WASTE-OF GOOD AIR ASSOCIATED WITH YOU. IF YOU HAVE ONE OF THOSE INSANE PITBULLS, THAT BASTARD, TOO. AMERICANS ARE FED UP, CHICO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I SAY NUKE THE MEX SHITHOLE AND ALL THE TURDS ASSOCIATED WITH IT! GOT IT, PENDAJA? You couldn’t all load up into a stolen Toyota SUV, everyone of your garbage “familia”, and hit the border quick enough to make me happy. Compreda, ASSHOLE? DON’T LET THE FENCE HIT YOU IN THE ASS ON YOUR WAY OUT!!! YOU BASTARDS ARE THE BIGGEST MISTAKE OUR LAME-ASS GOVERNMENT EVER MADE!!! LEGAL OR NOT. GODDAMN…. WHAT WERE THOSE STUPID PRICKS IN D.C. THINKING? AMERICA TURNING INTO A MEX INFESTED TOILET!!! WE HAVE PEOPLE IN THIS FAMILY THAT DIED FOR AMERICA!!! AND THEN WE HAVE TO SEE OUR KIDS RAISED INTO WORLD WITH DUMBASS MEXS SPEAKING THAT STUPID BORDER-TRASH MEX-ANISH EVERYWHERE WE GO. HELL, WHY DON’T YOU IGNORANT FUCKS LEARN REAL SPANISH? INBRED BUNCH OF GARBAGE…….
I just heard that Bakersfield’s Kern Medical Center (KMC), the only trauma center between that stinking Mex-infested shitheap, LA, and Fresno is in grave danger of closing. It is being brought down financially because KMC, having unfortunate, misguided, pity on the backwards-assed walking shit-piles, helped the corrupt, rotten, Mex Invaders with free healthcare while the crazy Mex peasants dug in good and deep, the last decade or so, and got started on ruining the American Dream for Real American Pissed Off Taxpayers. Too bad we can’t tax the shit out of all that money those over breeding, anchor-baby shitting bastards send back to Mex-Land. Our lame-assed wannabe government’s corrupt Mex-sellouts (FEMOCRATS…California is eat up with them) could then use the money for WICA, food stamps, free clinics, free emergency room treatment, and other taxpayer services provided for Real American citizens that are being stolen by these spic peasant colonists. At least then hard working Real Americans wouldn’t have to finance ALL of the idiotic overpopulating the “poor” knocked-up, 400 pound, spic whores, the legal AND illegal ones, are doing. By making American Taxpayers pay for their spic cockroach, filthy, gang-banging, foreign language babbling, offspring from cradle to grave, these spic whores, their spic asshole-babies, and other family members are killing off the American Dream. Another idea to help the Pissed Off Taxpayer: we sterilize those spic welfare whores and put the whores into bordellos (spic word!) servicing American Taxpayers. Pissed Off Taxpayers could then get something back for all the money the Mex-sympathizer Femocrat traitor bastard politicians steal from us everyday and give over to these invader cockroaches. The really fat, lazy, ugly ones could service our livestock (I hear that’s a job description in TJ). That might help take our minds off of America The Beautiful turning into a third world shithole like that LA Sewer within three generations. So what’s up Samita, do you think these are good plans?
Pissed Off Taxpayer Wanting His Goddamn Money Back.
first of all i would like to say that i am not full of hate towards america but towards people like “Fred” , “Pam”, and “Mike”, and all the people that think like them. second of all mexicans in california, texas, and so on would not be illegal immigrants in the USA would have been honest and would not have robbed MEXICO of what was theirs. you say that immigrants cheat the government for $35 billion in taxes and then take $30 billion in government benifits well what about those immigrants that do pay taxes billions and billions and never get a penny back? where does that money go?
American Michael
first of you fuck face you dont even know how to fucken speak the right english so dont funken come over here and say shit about the way MEXICANS speak spanish and you are a fucken immigrant yourself you little bitch so shut the fuck up you fucken lazy son of a bitch and fuck you have you noticed who the fuck is fucking having 10 15 kids now its your dumbasses and you cant afford to feed their little fucken asses so who pays all those extra dollars that you take up in welfare MEXICANS who makes your fast food MEXICANS who picks the fruits and vegetables in the grociery store you go to MEXICANS and if there is someone fucken taking up space and air in this world its your dumb ass and all the fucken people that think like you all the people that think that they are better and are worth shit so fuck you and have you noticed who has all the ugly fucken dirty ass fuck houses people like you you idiot if your poor now without MEXICANS you wont have enough money to eat oh wait yhe government wont have enough money to give your fucken lazy ass
hey American Michael if your so fucken american then why dont you have an american name oh thats right there is no such thing as an american name because you steal that like everything else
Goddamn. I finally got a rise out of a puta/puto. What’s up lardass? Cracked any mirrors today, you ugly bitch? I have a job, bitch/bastard. Go back and read the part about Pissed Off Taxpayer Wanting His Goddamn Money Back, idiota/idioto. My name is out the Bible, the real Bible (not that insane Catholic Rag the Third World Overbreeders use). So fuck you, lardass. As for my English skills, doesn’t the Wetback language have punctuation, pedaja/pedajo? Shit, my dog writes better than you! I know, you can probably lick your own pussy, but that doesn’t countI know plenty about Wetbacks. I’ve lived in Texas and California, you ugly bitch/bastard. Filthy, lying, cheating, thugs. Life without Wetbacks is only a dream now. The American Dream. I wouldn’t miss you or your fellow over-populating welfare trash, bitch/bastard. Not for one fucking minute! I don’t give my money to businesses that hire Wetbacks, either. In fact, I turn them into ICE. A Deported Wetback is a good Wetback! Life without having to look at or hear one of you idiots babbling in public would be PARADISE! You think you bastards are valuable? As what? Fertilizer? Give me a break you ignorant, inbred son/daughter, whatever, of a she-burro. The only dumbasses that support spic overbreeding on the taxpayer tit are other spics. Americans can’t stand the sight of you! HOW DID WE LET OUR COUNTRY BE OVERRUN BY SUCH DISGUSTING GARBAGE ???????? By the way, puta/puto, do you have a Greencard? No? THEN GET THE FUCK OUT ! DON’T LET THAT FENCE YOU IN THE ASS ON THE WAY BACK TO YOUR HEAP!!!
I looked up Marisol..it means beaner whore who shits out anchor babies, but has no job. So what’s up beaner whore? How many worthless-ass anchor-babies have you shitten on America the Beautiful? I am guessing a 400 lb. lardass beaner bitch with 3 kids and still young, probably a good breeder sow for 3 or 4 more. Thanks a lot, puta. The American Taxpayer is disgusted by our taxes going to support the type of trash you putas keep making our children have to put up with to get an education. You dumbass idiots speak Wetback to the DUMBASS baby idiotas and iodiotos at home and the public schools have to try and make Americans out of such poor material. Are you Mexs so fucking stupid that you don’t understand America is BUSY? We are fighting GLOBAL TERRIORISM. We really don’t have time for your dumbass kids, or the entire Wetback thing, actually. Get your bug-breeding illegal asses the fuck out of here before you make us MAD! You can’t be that STUPID! GODDAMN! I hope the fence is ELECTRIC AND LETHAL.! We need to be shooting illegals at the border! I pray to God that you and all your family’s offspring end up back in the Mex Cesspool that spawned your sorry asses!
The robust U.S. economy has lured millions of immigrants — largely from Mexico and other Latin American countries — in numbers that vastly eclipse the number of visas available. Many businesses are dependent on the flow of illegal labor to fill chronic shortages, while many grassroots Americans are resentful, saying illegal immigrants pose a multibillion-dollar drain on social services and take jobs that should go to Americans. Many pro-immigrant groups believe illegal immigrants and their families are exploited by unscrupulous employers and forced to live in the shadows without adequate legal safeguards.
Fuck you guys illegal immigrants do not desirve to live here they do not respect our country or our culture. Im a White american male i work the same hours the same pay and the same work as these “hard working illegals”, yet im lazy?
STFU
While me and my Non-white american friend are working they are sitting in the back speaking that bullshit language while we do work.
REAL HARD WORKING
Fuck you illegal immigrant sympathisers, right on jerry its not white/illegal immigrants its america/illegal immigrants
Funny…americans talkabout illegal immigrants as if they have this holyer than thou mantle.
Listen “americans”…as soon as the pilgrims get back on their boat and go back…Mexicans will continue to be here…it’s a matter of fact…San Antonio, Nevada, California, colorado, etc…these are not white american names…meaning these cities were here before the ILLEGAL INCURSION by the white english/spaniards/dutch/french/etc…all white war mongers that only wanted to “STEAL” all the gold and kill everything else. Then they decided to stay…and were glad mexicans were here already…
Just so you crackers understand….The Native American Indians (yeah…those you almost killed to extintion…) Those Indians, are the ONLY NATIVE AMERICANS left in this country. So you all racist idiots better learn spanish quick…before we kick you out of “AMERICA”…which leaves me to this conclusion…the name America…why don’t you racist smelly white trash go and find out where it came from….you dumb, consumer driven ignorant people. Instead of being scared of immigrants…why aren’t you questionuing the govrnmt as to why we’re so down in the education scale next to other countries. Did you know many of the illegals come from well educated countries that far surpass USA’s in education???? Must be for the money eh? Time to get the gold back from those who raped the rest of the world….LOLOLOL…now shut up and get a real job instead of collecting govnm’t checks like the rest of us…
Fuck you guys illegal immigrants do not desirve to live here they do not respect our country or our culture. Im a White american male i work the same hours the same pay and the same work as these “hard working illegals”, yet im lazy?———-
Culture? LOLOLOL….what Culture are you speaking of? The pueblo Indians? The comanches? the apaches ?? what culture are you speaking man ??? TV ?????
Lololol…I rest my case…Ignorant…not wanting to learn, cept war…nothing else…you hate people speaking other languages??? Vete pal coño de tu madre…I’m sure is nice and warm there…
lololol…. we laugh at you…you are the minority now…but don’t worry…as an ex-illegal immigrant, I say this to you…the same way white people took the land from those that were here before…now white people know how it feels…don’t worry…you’ll have work…we’ll put you picking fruits, or cleaning bathrooms…that way you learn what “WORKING HARD” really means….now drop that beer and get busy loving us. The Hispanic population is 1/5 th of the usa population…and we’re ALL AMERICANS…so please get over yourself…go back to england or france…or netherland..wherever you feel better seeing pink skin people…you dirty redneck!
Goddamn Rocket-ita, your history lesson is way flawed, bitch. The Real American cities with White European Spaniard names were from White European Spaniards looking for gold all over the Americas, pedaja. They dropped names for places and moved on, dipshit. Got nothing to do with you greaser border trash walking shitpiles! Real Americans used to think the names were cool before we got hit-and-ran by one of your STUPID ASS KIDS. Now we know that all things wetback SUCK! White European Spaniards killed the shit out of native peasant future wetbacks like you, and the other border-jumping gargage you and your fellow shit-stains are now so proud of. They also massacred some of the more noble cultures like the Inca and Maja for gold. You filthy, stinking, thieving, greasy mutts are proof that they did indeed fuck the buffalo. You can still see the buffalo heritage in those 400 lb. lard-ass putas you trash bastards have over shitting out anchor babies all over the place. Yes get over yourself indeed! You corrupt bastardos are still trying to speak their langauge. The land you goddamned bastard children of a cum-drunk burro think you are owed was sold to us by the same type of corrupt cocksuckers in Mexico City that are sucking the life of the Mex shithole now. We own America and we are weeding you sorry cumstains on a TJ whorehouse mattress out. The trend now is to stop the spread of wets and prosecute the traitors giving the wetback shitpiles jobs. 1/5 of the poplulation? Shit. You must be in Southern California because it has really turned into a wetback-infested third world shithole like Mexico. Goddamn wetbacks running across freeways! We should have been shooting to kill at the border then, as we need to be now. Yes, Real America has seen what you parasites have done to California, asshole. Real America has woken up to the stench of wetbacks invading Real American Cities, and we are pissed puta! You shit-colored bastards are on your way out. No Amnesty! No Reconquistita! Tweety is a cum drunk faggot that gives the donkey in TJ blowjobs 5 times a day, oh wait, that’s your momma! FUCK YOU! Pack your shit wetback! It ain’t over till its over, flaca. Line up your family and friends to kiss my American Ass!
We are all immigrants from some place. Immigration has always been really strong in this country. I think we should all look at where we originated first and then ask ourselves why did our ancestors decided to immigrate elsewhere. Then maybe we can all think deep and have “empathy” for others. In today’s society there is more discrimination, stereotypes, and racism of course it is more silent though. Unfortunately there are many sad individuals that have so much anger over innocent people who just want to provide their family the best. You guys should watch the video “Color of Fear” it has a lot of information about sad individuals like these ones. Hopefully you racist individuals can have that epiphany emerge into you guys. I also think racist people like some of you are sour individuals. Many of you have no idea of what people from other countries go through to find a better life. All you guys care is about the facts, which sometimes are unreliable. Many come up with excuses like they take our jobs , they screw the welfare system dadadadada….i have heard those myths too in the news. That is all i hear, but i don’t really seem to find anywhere in this place, if some of you assume to be so smart? how do they actually screw up the system? i am dying to know , and i am really looking for a well explained reason as to how? It better have sources too because most of the statistics here do not have relevant sources, how will i know if its not just coming out of your guys’ a$$.i will add more to this topic as many reply.
kill all of these mexican fuckers!!!!!!!!!!!
kill niggers beat them an burn the homes
if i could i would fight nancy salas.Cause your an ignorant son of a bitch.
I think that illegal immigrants should be allowed because they deserve it! i know that all you white people hate these mexicans and asians but what did they do to you? immigrants annoy me aswell as any other white person but do you know what DEAL with it …………. as far as i’m concerned no one in this entire world is one breed so you can all shut up and i am not against illegal immigrants.
Natallie,
Immigration will always be fine. We are not talking about immigration being the problem here, we are talking about ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION being the problem. Do you know how many immigrants the United States let into it’s borders every year? Visit http://www.gao.gov, they can tell you that the U.S. let’s more then twice as many immigrants as any other country in the WORLD!! That’s legally now. If we didn’t have all of the ILLEGAL immigrants, our economy wouldn’t be going down hill so fast. They take money away from our schools, our health, even our communities.
Did you know that around 15,000 ILLEGAL immigrants have had more then 11 arrests? That was taken DIRECTLY from the U.S. Government website. If we can’t trust that information, what can we trust?
I understand you coming on here against the racial slurs and the b.s. that random people think makes them look funny, but standing up for people who purposely disobey our laws whenever we are bending them as much as we can to help make their lives better just doesn’t seem right.
Wouldn’t you agree?
No, I am not trying to be funny. I want to express my utter contempt and complete and TOTAL DISGUST the with whole wetback thing. I am trying to disrespect these arrogant invading bastards in the worst possible way. WETBACK, PLEASE USE YOUR TONGUE AS TOILET PAPER FOR MY LAB, SHE HAS DIAREAHA (sp) THIS WEEK. Good news on The Fence this week, now if we can just get these stinking trespassers on the right side of it. NOTE TO WETBACK: GET YOUR BABBLING MONKEY ASSES BACK ACROSS THE BORDER TO YOUR STINKING SHITHOLE HOME!!!! Thank you, you backwards-ass piece of shit.
Oh yeah, have you noticed in the news…Now that we have a freakin spic cocksucker in charge of the U.S. Census for 2010 that suddenly it is going to cost us American Taxpayers an additional 3 BILLION to try and go door-to-door and count wetback invaders as supposed “Americans”. SHIT! WHAT IN THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH AMERICA TODAY? WE PUT A FREAKIN’ WETBACK, GUITERREZ, OR SOME THIRD WORLD SHIT-ASS NAME IN CHARGE….NOW SUDDENLY THIS MEX ASSHOLE CAN’T/WON’T COUNT AMERICANS. SAYING HIS HOOKED-UP WETBACK WANNA-BE-AMERICA ASSHOLE-BUDDIES ARE TOO STUPID TO USE A COMPUTER. MAYBE WE GIVE THIS GUITERREZ ASSHOLE’S HOOKED-UP BABBLING-ASS MONKEY SHITPILES A SACK OF BURRO-BALLS AND THEY COULD DROP, THEIR PANTS TO TO COUNT TO 21. WHAT FUCKIN’ BULLSHIT!! U.S.OF A. TURNIN’ TO TJ. BULLSHIT! FUCKIN’ DUH! YOU ANSWER THE GODDAMN FORM OR YOU ARE A WETBACK PARASITE WITH NUMEROUS OTHER WETBACK PARASITE FAMILIA SUCKING THE LIFE OUT OF THE GREATEST COUNTRY THE WORLD HAS KNOWN. TO PUT THIS GODDAMN FESTERING DUNG IN A DESERT SUN WORKING TO COUNT REAL AMERICANS ON THE AMERICAN CENSUS IS JUST ALMOST AS STUPID AS HAVING A PIECE OF SHIT LIKE GUITERREZ IN CHARGE IN THE FIRST PLACE. THESE INVADER BASTARDS WILL BE SPEAKING WETBACK TO SUPPOSED “AMERICANS” THESE INVADER ASSHOLES ARE NOT AMERICANS. THEY ARE INVADERS WHO NEED TO BE ROUNDED UP AND WORKING ON THE BORDER FENCE FOR TWO YEARS AND THEN DEPORTED, ACHOR-BABIES AND ALL. MEXICO, COME GET YOUR TRASH! WHERE DO WE GET SUCH IDIOTIC IDEAS? AMERICA WAKE UP? THESE FUCKIN’ WETS ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF OUR KINDNESS! THESE BURRO TURDS ARE FOR REAL! DO YOU WANT YOUR KIDS TO SPEAK WETBACK? WAKE UP!
BRING OUR TROOPS HOME AND INVADE MEXICO INSTEAD. THE MORE WE KILL NOW, THE LESS WE HAVE TO LISTEN TO BABBLING FUCKIN’ MONKEYS IN PUBLIC LATER. WE HAVE GOT TO GET RID OF THESE INVADING TRASH NOW! NUKE MEXICO NOW!
If we are all so worried with illegal immigrants coming into this country whose to blame? definitely not that people, the people just come to the best target that would suit them to get a better life and a better economic life. If the government would progress then i don’t think we would be seeing any of them here. The government is so corruptive, not enough jobs and not enough money! If we are so worried that they are coming here invading this country, then why don’t we work with the government and find a solution to the problem. If we don’t work together this is going to keep happening. It all lies in the hands of the government. We can be ignorant and keep blabbering our mouths about illegal immigrants but i guarantee you guys that this will never be solved till we become open minded and work with these people.lets be sympathetic and realize that it is not their fault.
Just saw in the paper where we kicked a wetback cunt out of the Miss California Contest for babbling wetback lingo to the sponsors! RIGHT ON! Send the babbling monkey puta bitch to run for Miss Pendaja in Wetback Land! SOUND LIKE YOU WETBACK SHITSTAINS ARE TAKING OVER? Yea! Eat shit you shit-covered bastards!
Some beaner piece of shit running a bar in Reno was flying the chili-shitter flag above The Real American Flag, Old Glory. I saw on TV where a U.S. Army Veteran walked up and rescued Old Glory from the stupid ass walking pile of shit wetback’s flagpole in broad daylight and on camera. He used an Army knife to cut it down from spic captivity. He threw their Spic-Land flag on the ground and dared the putoes gawking at him to do something. The chihuahuas didn’t say shit, they were so scared they pissed down their legs! HA! . Note to Americans: MOST OF THESE SPIC COCKSUCKERS ARE TAKING OVER BY JUST ACTING CRAZY. WE MUST NOT LET OURSELVES BE INTIMIDATED. THEY WERE RAISED LIKE ANIMALS WITH NO MORALS. THEY ARE NOT ALL THAT BAD-ASSED IN A FIGHT. THEY ARE JUST RUDE AND FULL OF SHIT. HELL MOST OF THEM WEIGH UNDER 120 LBS. JUST SLAP THE BITCHES WHEN THEY TALK SHIT AND ACT UP. THEY’LL RUN LIKE PUSSIES, JUST LIKE THESE SPIC BITCHES, HERE CHECK OUT THE LINK: http://www.krnv.com/Global/story.asp?S=7162515. THERE’S A REAL AMERICAN KICKING WETBACK ASS!!!!!!!!!!! YEAH! FUCK YOU WETBACK ASSHOLES! BURN IN HELL!
OH YEAH, CAN WE PASS A LAW WHERE THE ENEMY WETBACK ASSHOLES CAN’T EVEN BUY OR POSSESS A REAL AMERICAN FLAG? WE GOTTA DRAW THE LINE SOMEWHERE. THE CRAZY SPIC ASSHOLES ARE EASY TO SPOT. BAD ENOUGH WE HAVE LOOK AT THE SORRY OVER-BREEDING MOTHERFUCKERS AND LISTEN TO THEIR FUCKIN’ BABBLIN’ IN AMERICAN OWNED PUBLIC PLACES… AND THE DIAL ’1″ FOR ENGLISH BULLSHIT! FUCK! WE NEED TO ROUND THESE TRASH BASTARDOS UP AND MAKE ‘EM WORK ON THE WALL TWO YEARS AND THEN DEPORT THE SORRY BASTARDOS BACK TO CHILI-SHITTER LAND… ANCHOR-BABIES AND ALL!!! PUT ‘EM IN CHAINS!!!
May Day. May 1, 2008. A DUD. Seems the Wetback Assholes weren’t so vocal this year. Cinco De Chili-shitter Day is just around the corner. I guess if you bitches did whip the Pussy Frenchies 200 years ago that’s cause for all you “loco” monkey-babbling whining trash bastardos/bastardas to act stupid for a day. It’s what you shitpiles do best. Yawn. Can we get ICE and the Border Patrol on this? You can hear the stupid fucks from a mile away. We could round ‘em up in chains and get this Wall finished on time. Wouldn’t have to spend so much taxpayer money counting their sorry asses come 2010 Census Time.
HAPPY CHILI-SHITTER DAY! I just wanted to express my GRATITUDE for all the marching in the streets and otherwise DISINGENIOUSLY acting like you are running something just because you bastards have fucked up the border states. You opened the eyes of REAL AMERICANS. The ones who know what America is all about. You rude, obnoxius, loud, no driving, littering idiotos have done a hell of a job of ALERTING AMERICA. I think the next few years will be good for REAL AMERICANS. We will round up the wetback invaders and get the greedy traitors hiring them locked up. Get the crooked politicos promoting the wetback agenda out of office, shutdown the wetback KKK, La Raza (The Racists), and MenciA (whatever)…You know, just get a better America for our children. Oh yeah, and maybe we can get the wetback langauge out of our public life. WE ARE SICK OF YOU BABBLING MONKEYS. HOPE YOU ALL BURN IN HELL! HAPPY CHILI-SHITTER DAY!!!!!!
Mexicans suck!!!1 i hate them stay out of our country you fricken taco eating money job takin hippie punks i hate you
stupid mexicans
i hate mexicans
mexicans go home
First, I do not have an issue with legal immigrants. Illegal immigrants are a completely different breed. This is the United States and if you are illegal you do not have any rights here. You can march, rant, demand, raise hell, shout, but you have no rights. Yet for reasons that make not a lick of sense to those of us born here you get lots of free stuff i.e. health care, welfare, section 8, subsidized child care, free clothes & utilities, and much more. We even have to pay for tutors for your bastards. And we are not getting the best of the best. We are getting the uneducated criminals that no country would want. You make babies here and you have a gazillion bastards back home. You teach other how to work the system, and you excel at working it. I was born here. I get only what I work for. I pay for your health care and welfare. English is the language here. We provide classes for you at no charge. I pay for my classes. But you expect us to adapt to you and speak Spanish. I cry for my country. We do not want you. We do not need you. You add nothing to the quality of life in the United States. You are like hemorrhoids. You just hang around and irritate.
Bravo!
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Bluedogmoos: Good analogy on the hemorroids… legal or illegal is the issue. If we could just see the “legals” NOT supporting the “illegals”. This assshole named Guiterez ( sp… whatever… asshole claims he’s American.BULLSHIT!)was on Lou Dobbs last week, whining about Real Americans seeing Hyphenated Mexs ( Bilingual Assholes) supporting their Border Brothers as making them enemies to America. Hell yes, that prick, legislator or not, NEEDS TO BE DEPORTED. Let’s send the La Raza (The Racists), Juan McCain, and every other “politician” with a WETBACK AGENDA back to CHILI-SHITTER-LAND. Real America needs a BIG enema to expel the chihuahua garbage that is up her ass back, over the fence, and back into the Mex Shitpile that spawned their sorries asses. Fuck you WETBACK! Real America hates the sight of your sorry asses and we are sure as hell fed up with YOUR CHILI-SHITTER BABBLING IN PUBLIC!!!. PLEASE, FUCK OFF AND EAT SHIT YOU TICK-TURD BASTARDOS (spic word!). Oh yeah, stick an entire marachi band up your loose, worn-out asshole! Do you motherfuckers ever shut up? Hail Mary full of grace, please, you Whore, sit on my dog’s face! NUKE MEX-LAND!
Natallie, you are so naive. They don’t come here to “make” a better life. They come here to “take” a better life at the expense of the American taxpayer. I live in the 9th largest state (by population), yet we have the 3rd largest illegal alien population in the country, estimated at about 400K. They soak up over $2 billion a year in services, paid for by the taxpayers. We have at least a dozen, maybe more, towns that have decalred themselves “sanctuary cities.” Translation– our businesses will hire you even though you are working with a fake or stolen SS#. They can walk into any Bank of America branch with a consular card and open an account, whereas an American citizen has to have a SS#, picture ID, utility bill and his genealogy back to the Mayflower. It’s one thing to stand in line and wait your turn, it’s quite another to jump the border and scam the system at someone else’s expense.
Border state governors are meeting with the Chili-shitter Pres, Cabrone, or whatever. Americans are thinking of sending billions to the Corrupt Shithole (MEX-LAND) to fight the Drug Cartels… Real Americans know the corrupt cocksuckers will steal American Taxpayer money, like they have always done! FUCK THE CORRUPT MEX POLITICOS! GODAMN! THE FUCKIN’ WETBACK GOVERMENT IS THE CARTEL! SEND TROOPS, NOT MONEY TO THE MEX SHITHOLE! IF THE ILLEGAL INVADING BORDER TRASH THE BASTARDS SEND US WAS WORTH ANYTHING, THEY WOULD WANT THEM BACK, TOO! WE ARE THINKING OF SENDING MONEY TO INSANELY GREEDY THIRD WORLD THIEVES, WHEN WE NEED THE MONEY TO BUILD THE WALL AND GET ALL THESE MILLIONS OF ANCHOR-BABY SHITTING WETBACKS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BORDER? BULLSHIT! PUT THE ARMY ON THE BORDER AND START SHOOTING MOTHERFUCKERS! WE ARE A STRONG COUNTRY. LET’S PUT THESE FUCKING DONKEY-FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT IN THEIR PLACE. FUCK POLITICS! THE STUPID FUCKS AREN’T EVEN SMART ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND HOW FUCKED UP AND UNDESIRABLE THEY ARE! LOOK AT HELL-A (LA). A MEX SHITPILE RUN BY A CRAZY SPIC COCKSUCKER! LET’S INVADE THE SPIC SHITHOLE AND TAKE THEIR OIL, THEY ARE RUNNING SUCH A CLUSTER-FUCK OF A GOVERMENT WE COULD TAKE ‘EM IN WEEK! HOW CAN WE TAKE SUCH LAME BENDAJAS SERIOUSLY? MY DOG COULD OUTSMART THESE IDIOTOS! SHIT!
Maria Murillo, you say that we are all illegal immigrants, are you joking. There was nothing illegal about how my grandparents came from Italy and came to America LEGALLY through ELLIS ISLAND. They did not sneak in here when nobody was looking. I am not a racist either so dont even start with that. I am an Italian man who lived in Detroit for 24 yrs and I just moved to Tucson AZ. I had no idea what was going on down here by the border and it makes me sick. Once again I am not a racist, I say I am sick because a lot of these illegals wont even hesitate to admit they are illegal. I got laid off my job that I was well qualified for and there were 2 illegals on my crew (I know theyre illegal cause they told me) and they are still working. I am so fed up with these asshole liberal rich politicians in DC who are so out of touch with reality and have so much money that they have no idea how fucked that America is. Stopping illegal immigration should priority 1 of these asshole politicians.
Otto Perlera you are just a classic example of the trash that needs to be deported to the garbage can you came from. Dont get it twisted Otto. WE DONT NEED YOU, THE RICH GREEDY CONTRACTORS AND GREEDY ASS CORPRATE AMERICA ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT WANT YOU. Yeah I said want because the truth is nobody needs you. They could easily and should be paying hard working AMERICANS to do the “jobs” you illegals CLAIM you are doing. And as far as the drug thing goes, that is just you keeping the mexican stereotype alive. NOONE NEEDS YOU OTTO, YOU NEED US. YOU NEED THE FREE MEDICAL CARE, LEGAL AID, UNEMPLOYMENT AND WELFARE BENIFITS. SO BEFORE YOU TYPE ON SOMEONE ELSE’S KEYBOARD, THINK ABOUT WHO NEEDS WHO. Youre so good at working right, why not put that work to use in mexico you “hard worker”
I’m just now getting on board with all this and joining the coalition against illegal immigration but my motivation comes from not from all the stuff in the media which I sadly did not pay much attention to in the past but things that are happening in the small town I grew up in. My family has been a part of this town since middle 1800s not much has changed in all that time until recently. We suddenly are having a flux of Spanish speaking foriegn types of which I am quite certain are not here legally. I have personally known concrete finishers that trained these types to eventually be replaced by them. I have also personally witnessed them running out of our little small town grocery with goods. The most alarming thing that has really woke me up was the rude jesters they make to the young girls in our town. One of the girls didn’t tell us about one of them grabbing her in the bathroom until a week later because she was so afraid and just happy to be able to escape from him. I am now afraid in middle small America where I used to think was the safest place of all.
how many of you whites have ever lived in a third world country? have you ever been to mexico or africa or india? have you seen how they live, what they deal with every day of their lives.
have you talked to the 3, 4, 5 year old kids begging on the streets for money so their parents can drink some more or get high and rape and beat them.
or prostitute them.
you might think what does this have to do with illegals, you know that special word that helps you define them as more of an object than a human being.
they want better lives that’s why they go to america, but when they get there they are greeted by people like you, comfortable whites who have probably never had to fight for anything in your life, not all of you of course, but as a white i understand very clearly our benifits for have lighter colour skin.
say it was the other way around say america in the begining was a white country and the indians came over and slaughtred a bunch of you to take your land, you know raped your women things like that how would you react to that? would’nt you be pissed at the indians? and those kids that are in gangs do it because unfortunately that’s where they find their love, their family, they are just to young to understand how distorted it is.
i grew up in south africa, a gang infested, insanely violent country and most of that violence we are told come from blacks and coloureds. which can be true because blacks and coloureds are predominant over whites. but whites love to shift blame on other races for their lives being hard, you see what they did’nt tell me groing up was that our white goverment had decided that black were animals or worse and did’nt deserve to share their land with us so they push the black and coloureds out of their homes and into areas that could only spawn violence and hatred.
and so they had become illegals in their own country.
mexican and idian culture was around long before your ancestors walked of the boat. the irish were treated much the same when they came to america looking for that better life that america boasts about.
and they were white, and were met with the same hatred by “native whites” damn immigrants gonna steal our land!
well the white race has had no problem stealing from other races, so can you blame the mexicans for acting the way some of them do?
maybe all the mexicans should revolt, flood america and kick the all the whites back to europe where they belong, huh, how about that.
human beings think that just because we have something that it belongs to us, this world is not ours, gangs fight and die for land that they will never own, rich whites sit, locked up in their homes crying in fear and anger that someone is trying to take their land away.just sensless things.
we are all going to die and when you rot in the ground what will you own? your nation, your america, the land that you think loves you, will swallow you and feast on your flesh until you are dust in it’s belly.
there are bigger problems in this world than people jumping over fences.
making you feel uncomfortable.
stop hating other people you don’t understand.
one guy on this blog said that his gradfather was shot and killed buy an immigrant and wanted justice.
what if it had been a white guy? he probably would have said i’m angry and sad but the world is not a perfect place and gone on with his life.
(no disrepect to that guys loss of his grandfather) but there are all kinds of people killing other kinds people, that fact that his grandfather was shot is the problem, that’s what’s wrong not that a mexican did it.
for eg.the brutality in the police force in los angeles is well known.
many white cops have murdered and beaten up hispanic youth and got away with it just because they hated hispanics, do you think that that’s ok? where is their families justice?
this is however a racisist message board in my opinion.
so i don’t expect to be met with agreement, but these are simply my views.
it does’nt help living in fear of other races just because you’re to ignorant to find anything about them by yourself.
thanks for reading.
ryan
This is in Response to Ryan
You are right….I have never seen any of the things you describe in third world countries…but I am starting to see similar things now. Just because there are atrocities in other parts of the world is no reason to welcome it here. We have laws and these people are breaking them and bringing their third world life style in here with them.
My NATIVE AMERICAN GRANDMOTHER (CHEROKEE) would have been hated to see what is becoming of this country since we did make so much progress until recently. And…Yes my family history has suffered a lot of losses…we all know the history of the Native American Indian but now we are a family of many nationalities and not all of us are white….none of my family agrees with someone coming into our country that we built together…. ILLEGELLY. Especially my LEGAL IMMIGRANT husband from Porto Rico, which had to do things the right way and has served this country for more than twenty years. My husband also speaks Spanish, German, Italian but speaks English here in the United States like some of my German relatives do…..and guess what???? They don’t have a problem with it.
And yes some of my Brothers and Sisters have been killed and robbed of their jobs by illegals. See… something you will probably never understand is that all LAW ABIDING AMERICAN CITIZENS are my Brothers and Sisters and these type of crimes don’t have to happen to me directly for me to care or get involved. I GUESS THATS SOMETHING ONLY A TRUE AMERICAN UNDERSTANDS.
To sum it up….Yes.. I want my comfortable way of life away from the third world… for me and my children and their children and my fellow AMERICANS. Many of my family members have died for this country I don’t want their deaths to be in vain. I have no problem helping people out from other countries…but I will not sacrifice my family or my fellow citizens.
AMERICAN CITIZENS,
I am a 19 year old that lives in the great state of North Carolina. I just recently worked at the polls for the local Republican Party and actually seen illegals bring there American born child in to register and the parent would then basically fill out the ballot. This is NOT RIGHT! These people break the law in the first place by coming here and then they vote in our elections through there children when they dont even pay taxes! This is insane. i cant believe our country has done this.
good luck in taking all the immigrants
out of here!oh and yall better get started
because its going to take a while!lol
by the way you all are just hurting yourselfs
by hating us!(like we even care) we just live life!
Charles I am sad to hear that because there was just no need for it to come to that situation and as far as illegal immigrants should go i would want to ship them all back to their own country and then construct a wall around ours.
FUCK THE BEANERS!!!
Well, I think everything that could have been said from both sides has already been said. However, here is a different perspective, take ethnicity (not race for we are all 1 race) out of the equation and lets look at our border control problem. I live in Los Angeles, which is slowly becoming the new Mexico. I don’t mind it too much, since I have seen that Immigrants for the most part are hard-working people who have strong family and cultural values. Additionally, perform jobs that other people do not want to be doing.
Nonetheless, our borders should be secured!! Its not so much that most people are crossing over to marely work, however, there are people crossing over to do illegal things. I don’t care what ethnicity you are, the law is the law. With terrorism being on high alert with the new adminsitration, now more than ever is in important to SECURE OUR BORDERS. It is vidal for all citizens and non-citizens which reside in this great country.
Even though it is argued that “the border is too big, its impossible”, I believe that America can accomplish anything it puts its mind to. Even the Former soviet union with all their disfunction managed to have a tight border and by the way, their border was much bigger than ours. Therefore, I am more ticked off at our federal government for not being able to send the manpower to secure our borders above all else.
However, I would also like to add that illegal immigration is affecting California’s economy in an adverse way. California is in a deep hole, yet they still want more money for health care and education. I understand why people cross the border, my family immigrated “LEGALLY” from Ukraine 20 years ago and have never looked back. They were in search for a better life, however, they were well educated- spoke 3 languages (one of them English) and held higher education diplomas. And did the process “Legally”, waited/struggled for 2 years in Italy, and came over to embrace this countries language, culture and flag. I am a product of my parents- I speak English, currenly attaining a PhD and have never expected the government to translate- ANYTHING- into my language. Also the blatent disrespect for fedearl immigration law sets a bad precedent for those who are doing the process legally. “WE are saveges without law.”
If one comes into a country, they should respect that country, not put up flags of a country which basically kicked them out, and not have that country (USA) cater to your langauge needs.
Additionally, even though illegal immigrants come over to work (which is understandable), why do they have to bring over their entire family illegally as well. Our public school system suffers from an influx of people who do not speak the language, the standards go down, “white flight” occurs, neighborhoods lose thier property value and an american way of life is lost.
I happen to know that if children are sent to private schools in Mexico and South America, they actually get a better education than they do here in the states. Why can’t one parent come over to the US and send money back home? Life is cheaper in Mexico and great private medical services can be attained with $100- which in the US costs $10,000.
Additionally, California is currently losing its tax paying population and is getting an increase is Illegal Immigrants. Most sane people are moving north where they can still get jobs where Spanish is not required and property taxes (to fund illegal immigrant children in public schools) are lower. I love my state and I love my country in which I had the privelage of growing up in, however, its being taken over and it is just heartbreaking. For, I will be joining the tax payers and moving away from this great state. For good neighborhoods are few, far, and expensive. My future children will have to be placed in private schools and its just not a safe place to live and work any more.
Therefore, something must be done in a rational manner which will not infringe on civil rights, yet will be fair to legal citizens of the country who work hard to preserve its ideals and follow its laws.
It’s not just California affected by immigration….it is every state! PA hasn’t paid their state employees since July1st……but the freaking immigrants never missed a welfare check…..what are all these hispanics going to do when the welfare runs out…….and it soon will. I can’t wait…..I am sick of paying for their lazy asses……maybe they will all go back where they belong.
‘Therefore, something must be done in a rational manner which will not infringe on civil rights, yet will be fair to legal citizens of the country who work hard to preserve its ideals and follow its laws.’
I’d like to point out that anyone here illeglly is a criminal, and, therefore, not entitled to Rights.
I think it’s hilarious that “immigrants” have been reduced on this website to “Mexicans”. Yes there are a large percentage of Hispanic/Latino immigrants in the United States, but it’s clearly racism to say that an “illegal immigrant” equals a Mexican.
California taxpayers contribute more than $1 billion annually to cover health care costs of illegal residents. Also, taxpayers pay $12 Billion annually for illegal’s education. Add children born here to illegal parents equals $28.6 Billion. YIKES!!!
There is no such thing as “illegal immigration” folks. When those from south of our border enter our country in mass numbers, by EVADING law enforcement this can only be considered an INVASION. One would be guilty of “illegal immigration” by not filing for citizenship on time or over staying a visa. I, for one, am sick and tired of this issue being sugar coated with liberal twistings like “illegal immigrants” “guest workers” and, my personal favorite, “undocumented workers.”
If you think things are bad now, just wait till you see this news clip from the Comunist News Network!
http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/17260182/1610997888/name/ftc-vi26.wmv
Mexicans equal 85% of Illegal Immigrants, Stop with the whining Racists crap.
Facts are Facts, Statistically the numbers don’t lie, but Humans exploit! Heather
Well how could some of you people act like you are better than others? Do any of you read the Bible? He created all of us equally! He died for all of us not just the “americans”.
Go ahead and lay the religious guilt trip on those us who prefer to live in a land that goes by the rule of law. This tactic is no different than when the leftists deal the race card from the bottom of the deck. Take a long, hard look at America you liberal whiner, we ARE better than everyone else. To allow the continued flow of filth into this country will just drag the culture down to the level of the third world hell holes that these criminal invaders came from in the first place. It is true that when my ancestors arrived in America they too had their hands out. However, MY ancestors expected a pick or a shovel in their hands and not a check, food stamps and a yellow “Access” card!
How right you are
Yes but he also gave us free will, of which most of us choose not to have a bunch of gang bangers, drug smugglers and just filthy pig criminals in our faces, being down the economy and our lives in general.
Am not an American, but have a debt of gratitude with the US, whose military liberated me and millions of people in Europe, near the end of WWII. Unfortunately, couldn´t immigrate to the US, where American Dreams come true; a country where an Irish postman became a Vice President of the USPS, where a nice guy named Bezos, whom I met, created AMAZON from nothing, Bill Gates created his empire, and millions have realized their dreams. From outside, the changes in the US are easier to observe, and a series of trips to this great country left me with a greater appreciation of same, as well as a certain feeling of horror; the latter caused by the loss of freedoms and mores observed, as well as traditions being trampled in the name of progress and “human and minorities¨rights”. In Washington, New York and Miami, I understood the feeling of discrimination; just because of my blue eyes and white skin, apart from the fact of being warned not to visit certain neighborhoods, whose ihabitants had all the freedom to do so wherever they pleased. In Miami I was surprised to see signs posted in businesses¨windows with the legend “English Spoken”, where I met lots of people living for a long time in the “American”? city, who live within a Latin society, including their language and traditions. Concretely left with a feeling of their resentment towards everything American. Observed the same throughout the States. After some four years of observation, have been left with a feeling that the attitude is disrespectful and ominous for the Host Country in the future. There are honorable exceptions, of course, but they are a minority.
Hope that Jerry, Deer Crusher and their likes may be heard by some some truly American powerful politicians. I’m just a voice in the desert.
you guys should learn a little bit more about capitalism before you put the blame on the wrong people
These numbers are pretty brutal. I don’t know how valid they are, but real or fake, they are tough to look at. Still, it should be noted that many illegals are in fact employed either independently or by other immigrants. Some immigrants who entered the country with an eb5 green card will only employ fellow immigrants, so, they should not really be factored into these numbers. Still, again…the numbers are truly shocking and really rather depressing..
It’s you stupid white goobers who are the illegal invaders.
I am an Ethiopian, African immigrant. I agree with Mitchell Grous. These numbers are shocking. The Obama administration should work on, after health care and education, immigration reform. I don’t think the education reform will be as controversial as the health insurance and immigration reform. The comprehensive immigration reform bill will be a mine field. It won’t be popular. Fixing the illegal immigration problem benefits the nation and globe. Illegal immigration is hatching ground to terrorism and drug trafficking. Giving lasting remedy for illegal immigration will keep America safe and wealthy. We, the immigrants, owe this land of opportunity. The least we can do, we should try our best to assimilate with the American system. Americans should be part of the solution. Illegal immigration is cancer; let’s look for a chemo therapy, stem cell or a cure.
If the white humans of america and the brown humans of mexico are of the same race–caucasoid, how can one be racist in reference to the other? They are of the same race. One must remember when using language to use the proper language and define that language correctly. Is the argument about cultural differences or simply the hue of one’s skin? I fail to see the race argument when both parties are of the same race.
The strongest possible measure have to be taken against Mexican and OTHER illegals. Same thing with queers who want to take over.
The most unfortunate statistic there is in regards to the amount of imprisoned immigrants, and the circumstances under which they were imprisoned. One in five illegal immigrants are in jail for committing a crime after they enter…how mind-blowing is that stat?
I am so disappointed in America. We used to fight for our country now we lay down and roll over as thousands of illegals flood over our boarders each day. As our southern neighbors have decided that they are OK with a sub par level of life in their country as they know they can come to ours, steel from us, then retire back in the homeland, or just live off us for their rest of their lives.
What our country needs to do is start with a large fence, placed directly on the boarder. 50-75 yards back from that, we need guard towers posted every 1/4 mile. their job will be to shoot to kill ANYONE Unlawfully crossing the boarder. the bodies should then be throw back across the boarder as we should not have to continue paying for Mexico’s trash. towers will be maned by military personnel who have gotten out in the last year and will be required to serve 1 year after their discharge. They can also be maned by volunteers who have gone through an extensive training coarse.
As for illegals here, if your caught you are immediately give a choice, immediate deportation ( if caught in US again illegally, and proof of citizenship can not be produced, the punishment shall be death within 24 hours) or they can go to prison, where they will serve a 7 year term, during which they will work for our government, FOR FREE as a means of paying for their existence in this country. They will also be required to go through the citizenship process while in jail working off their debt, if they fail to gain legal status after 7 years they will again be given a choice, but a less appealing one, go home, or accept a death sentence.
If an illegal is caught committing a crime the will be punished, as they are not americans, the protection of the american legal system should not apply. Any petty crime will be punished by the loss of their right hand for their first offense, second offense is punishable by death to be carried out immediately. Any felony will be punished by death first offense.
Also, any American has the right to defend their land and property with lethal force against any illegal. Citizens also have the right to request proof of citizenship of anyone at anytime, failure to produce is grounds for detainment by police.
I agree with you! There are just to many Humanitarians here in our country or just a bunch of pussies, who want to tell us all how to live or even die and for who, them? But when attacked and they are under the knife so to speak they would be the first ones screaming for protection! If a man or a woman were terminally ill and did not want to suffer it is these same idiots want to tell them no. these are the people who have gotten us to this point. Were we loose more and more rights everyday only to give more rights than afforded to us citizens of the US. Me, a disabled US veteran from the 70s has less rights than an illegal. I truly believe this.
Mexicans are far worse than any other group of illegals, but all are bad. The reason they are so dangerous is because the Mexican government is encouraging them to sneak in here, break our laws, steal our services and destroy our country by illegal voting. This is an act of war.
The politicians that allow this in California and in the country as a whole are traitors. A declaration of war should be brought forth against mexico, the border should be locked down and the invading army should be forced back across the border and killed as enemy combatants.
[...] Facts on the Cost of Illegal Alien Invaders 1. The number of illegal immigrants estimated to be here are from 12-24+ mil! [...]
We live in a country with to many “Goody Two Shoes”, Humanitarians, Idiots or to put it quite simply, morons who would like us to think they are so much more smarter then all of us and tell us how to live our lives. I am afraid there isn’t much we can do other then like we are doing keep speaking out to the public as well as our government and hope for the best!
Let them keep coming in. I think all tax paying Americans need to claim at least 10 Illegals on their tax forms as dependents. We have been paying our own health insurance for years. We have never used it, but it keeps going up. Before long it will price us out. what about all the Illegals who have at least two babys a year? Who pays for these babys being born? They have better health care than we do. LETS ALL CLAIM THEM AS DEPENDENTS. LETS SEE HOW UNCLE SAM LIKES THAT!
Listen up everyone. read about NAFTA. we are causing the immigration of these economic refugees. think about our role in this through our free trade deals which have been ruined by farm subsidies and tanked mexico’s economy.
wow nick… what about someone who stole a loaf of bread during hurricane katrina’s aftermath? what about someone running to the US being chased by mexican gangs? you would have these people killed. very smart.
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My family is from Mexico and due to a high risk pregnancy they consulted a doctor in the U.S. so I am a U.S citizen by birth. My father had a professional career and they were happy with the life they had in Mexico and still do. I studied in the U.S in a private high school and worked in a corporation later in life. Paid my taxes during my time working in the U.S.
I do agree that illegal immigration has placed and enourmous burden on the U.S system. I crossed paths with people from mexico in the U.S, and realized that eventhough the first generation in most instances was for the most part decent hard working families their offspring tended to be embarrased of their roots, did not do well in school, nor have a good appearance and in some cases lazy. I can understand how the people in the U.S can at times feel uncomfortable. Several illegals do commit crimes and this makes matters worse on how they represent their ethnic background. I’m not saying all but some do. On the other hand, the U.S was referred to in history as a “melting pot” due to it’s variety in ethnic groups. We cannot forget this but several foreigners have also arrived to the country during the last yrs through the proper channels and it can be done. I know of several who obtained U.S citizenship because the U.S government offered it in exchange for military service. I tended to be very soft hearted when it came to the question at hand of illegal immigrants until 2007. I decided to move to Mexico to help a family member with a medical condition. To my surprise my experience with the Mexican consulate in Houston, Tx was disgusting. They were very rude, inefficient like most mexican government office and not clear on some critical documentation needed. I had itemized my boxes and was ready for the move and went back to the consulate near my departure date to confirm everything was on track. Finally after some hrs I was in front of the consulate and he started yelling in front of an enourmous line of all sorts of central and south americans that how could I expect to live in Mexico as an illegal? They assumed I was a mexican because I spoke spanish and never explained that I needed to obtain some documentation. One would assume that they should be greatly appreciative that I was going to mexico and could offer some benefit to the country with my working experience. I was dressed appropriate, cordial and was in shock on how he was addressing me. For a moment, I wanted to yell back: how dare you even treat me in this manner when there are millions of mexicans who live in the u.s illegally. Up to this date I am still appalled at his attitude and hipocrisy. This is to prove to you that mexicans can be jerks and unreasonably demanding. I have a friend who is French nationality trilingual with an MBA and she fell in love with a mexican. They gave her such a hard time in Monterrey to get legal status. This is so unexpected for it does not make sense. I’ve encounted a few arrogant federal workers who basically are saying that unless you give them a bribe they will not do their job!! This is why things are so messed up in mexico. The government needs to continue making reforms to eliminate such corruption. We should try to talk and understand both sides of the coin and hopefully Mexicans will also understand the situation they are creating and what they can do to improve their image and reputation and get a legal status as to pay taxes in the U.S just like so many americans do.
What ever happened.to SPEAK, WRITE & READ ENGLISH!!!we have to get our country back!! …send the illegal aliens back and keep our money in our country. Give to those who need. AND WHO ARE BORN HERE!!!!!
One of the ways to help is not to vote for Obama. He wants to let more Mexican immigrants into this country except those that are known criminals. It costs $52 billion to school children of illegal immigrants and in states with the largest number of illegals, often greater than the current, budget deficits. In Texas, the additional costs of illegal immigration is $16.4 billion, equal to its current deficit. In California it is $21.8 billion, $8 billion more than its current deficit of $13.8 billion. In New York it is $6.8 billion, about two-thirds of the $9.5 billion annual cost of its illegal population.
In addition, the Federal government paid $28.6 billion in illegal related costs, and state and local governments paid $82.4 billion on an estimated 13 million undocumented residents– Obama publically underestimated this by 2 million.
If it costs an average of $23,480 per person to deport these illegals we clearly must prevent them from crossing over the border to begin with. However, Obama wants to let them in, teach them English, educate them, and make them tax payers for a better economy. You are dreaming Obama. Maybe a certain percentage of them could succeed in helping make this a better country, but it will be a minority. From what we have seen, most of them end up having too many kids and on Welfare, the last thing we need. Then there is the fact they they are willing to work for less, without benefits– they are going to bring the standard of living down for the rest of us. Obama has got to go!
call congress 24/7 complaining and letting them know how you feel
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Not acting on this mexican invasion sooner will go down in our history books as the biggest U.S. mistake EVER..
We need to look at reforming immigratioin laws. There are alot of good working illegal immigrants who are paying taxes to Uncle Sam with little likelihood of claiming a refund and no hope of drawing a Social Security check. Just how much they pay is hard to determine because the federal government doesn’t fully tally it. But the latest figures available indicate it will amount to billions of dollars in federal income, Social Security and Medicare taxes this year. One rough estimate puts the amount of Social Security taxes alone at around $9 billion per year. Economic activity produced by illegal immigrant spending employs about 5% of the total US workforce. Illegal immigrants occupy over 3 million dwellings, or just under 4% of the total number of homes in the US. UCLA research indicates immigrants produce $150 billion of economic activity equivalent to spending stimulus every year.
By reforming immigration laws and how we approach good working illegal immigrants would save billions of dollars a year in leagal costs, detention housing and deportation.
Let’s not be so quick to punish all illegal immigrants….. Remember most of us are decendents of immigrants!
Now you know how the native Americans felt! Get used to it, karma is a b!tch
Illegal immigrants, the word its self is a misnomer. They aren’t immigrants at all but terrorists & invaders, and though they aren’t setting off bombs at the local mall or bus station, the damage they are causing is the same. They are ruining the lives of citizens, disrupting/degrading our infrastructure, taking jobs they have no right to, and costing this country money in upkeep & support.
12million law breakers, 12million terrorists who’s first act on US soil was to p-ss on our laws. Then go on to denigrate and demonize the lawful citizens of this country, all the while breaking more and more of our laws & ordinances. Costing us more and more of our money, time, and energy.
And though most of us are in fact descendants of immigrants, we are descendants of people that arrived here LEGALLY, who obeyed the law, who sought to build-not people who invaded our soil, violate our law, and by their own actions labor to tear down everything our forebearers worked to build.
12million illegal immigrants-please?! Sounds more like an invading force 12million strong! Which is about 6x larger than our active/reserve/and civilian-attached military!!!!!!!!!
So to you who do not respect our law, do not respect our rights, do not respect what our country stands for, do not respect what it is we’ve built, do not respect what our parents/their parents/their parents before them/& etc built, and then demand we accept you. GTFO you worthless parasite. You are nothing more than a disease.
To immigrants here legally, I applaud you & ask why let illegals p-ss all over the hard word you went through to get here LEGALLY?
Exactly to the point. California s suffering the financial effects of illegal aliens. Welcome to the United States of Mexico.
call congress 24/7 to let them know – no amnesty; they feel we want this – 23m americans-no jobs-why we want this and now
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